Crony-Catholicism?  Really?  The USCCB is advancing Obamunism? 

Say it ain't so, Joe!  It's bad enough that we now have so many Marxified Bishops, but now they actually act against the faith?

Vic Biorseth, Saturday, November 21, 2015
https://www.catholicamericanthinker.com/

This is not the first time we have spoken of Crony-Catholicism; but it is the first time we have seen evidence of USCCB intention to cooperate with the Obama Administration in bringing America down, advancing Marxism at the expense of the Constitution, and even in the advance of Islam in America at the expense of Christianity. In Lucifer and the CCHD we talked about how our USCCB is funneling our charitable contributions, from CCHD and from CRS, to fund sins from abortion to contraception.  Now, we see that they are also funding and providing physical support and facilities to feed and grow the criminal alien population here, including the Moslem population. 

Take a look at Catholic Church Facilitates Foreign Invasion, by Cliff Kincaid, November 19, 2015.  The Obama administration, consistently showing animosity to Christian practice in the lives of American citizens, who clearly and obviously always favors Islam over Christianity, who consistently demonstrates his anti-Semitism, is giving government grant money to the USCCB in return for help "settling" more and more criminal aliens here.  Our tax dollars.  It's going beyond USCCB abuse of our charitable contributions; now they're getting into our tax money, and everyone - including non-Catholic Americans - is paying to support the growth of the criminal alien population, without even being told about it. 

Did you know about this?  That's funny, neither did I. 

Could you ever imagine that Catholic Bishops would ever bring in illegal Moslems while closing Catholic Parishes?  Well, you don't have to imagine it.  I thought it was pretty bad that New York's Cardinal Dolan was closing the most orthodox Parishes in New York in favor of his pro-sodomy Parishes.  This is worse, if you can imagine that. 

Holy Trinity Roman Catholic Church in Syracuse NY was closed down, and then leased to an Islamic society who renamed it "Mosque of Jesus the Son of Mary".  All the crosses were replaced with copper crescent moons, in favor of the moon Mohammed worshiped before he invented Islam. 

This all has Papal blessing.  Pope Francis, responding to the sudden flood of a giant migration of Moslems from all over the Middle East and North Africa to strictly non-Moslem lands, mostly pretending to be from war-torn Syria, called on "every Parish, religious community, monastery and sanctuary to take in one refugee family." 

Vetting?
What vetting?
We don't need no stinking vetting!

The overwhelming majority of these Moslem migrants are not women, children, old or infirm; they are healthy men of military age, and they are not even from Syria, and they are carrying fraudulent, forged Syrian passports. 

Here, meanwhile, the USCCB is receiving some $70 Million of our tax dollars per year to settle untold thousands of third-world aliens, including Moslems.  And, I assume, they are doing it. 

It's enough to make you sick. 

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There is no way that any Bishop can be unaware, at this point in time, of what Comrade Obama, peace be upon him, is up to.  They cannot possibly be so blind or so stupid as to not be able to see it.  He is systematically destroying America, and if and when he is successful, there will be no Church in America.  Or in what used to be America. 

His constant harping on "our" universal values, and "our" American way of doing things, and "our" American heritage are all false, and so obviously false as to be laughable, if not for the tragedy that he is believed by so many.  "Our" values are Christian, from our national birth.  Not universal.  There is no such thing as a universal set of values. 

All religions are not the same.  All forms of government are not the same.  All ideologies are not the same.  All cultures are not the same.  It is quite impossible to merge all cultures together, and he knows it.  What he is feeding is not a future utopia, but absolute chaos and disorder.  Purposefully.  He wants total social breakdown.  That is the goal.  The destruction of all social institutions, including Catholicism. 

The Bishops who are in on this are not really Catholic; they are evil.  I see no other alternative.  They are every bit as anti-American as any major media news anchor, or as any Ivy League University Professor, if you can even imagine that level of rabid anti-Americanism. 

They schmooze over evil, or even pretend and teach the non-existence of evil, in saying that evil does not even exist.  All religions are the same.  They put the inattentive people to sleep, with a see-no-evil lullaby. 

But if all religions are the same, then there is no such thing as religion. 

I've said it before, but it bears repeating.  If evil didn't exist, there would be no need for the Church on earth.  There would be no need for government, or for law.  There would be no need for national defense forces, or for police forces.  There would be no need for personal weaponry, or for locks, or for fences and gates.  There would be no need for personal vigilance, or to worry about the safety of yourself, your family, your property or any part of your security.  

But we do indeed need all of these things, because evil does indeed exist.  Marxism itself is evil.  And ...

Islam is evil. 

Allowing more Moslems into America, and allowing the ones who are here to remain here, will eventually doom America, assuming she survives the administration of Comrade Obama, peace be upon him. 

Islam is war.  The very word means submit.  The whole goal of Islam is to grow the Islamic world at the expense of the non-Islamic world, until the whole world is in submission to Islam.  That's it. 

What we call Islamic Terrorism is, in fact, Islamic Jihad.  That's all it is.  Jihad is an integral and inseparable doctrine of the religion of Islam.  Where Eucharist may be the central doctrine of Catholicism, Jihad is the central doctrine of Islam.  It's the whole reason Islam exists.  To grow itself by war.  To terrorize the whole non-Islamic world, with the warning, convert, submit, or die. 

How can faithful, learned, scholarly Bishops possibly not know that? 

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Thanksgiving day; Thursday, November 26, 2015. 

After publication of this webpage, I was interviewed by Cliff Kincaid and Jerry Kenney on America's Survival TV.  Click the image to view the interview.  It just hit the internet today. 

Wishing all a most blessed Thanksgiving. 

Give thanks to the Lord for He is good; His steadfast love endures forever.  -Ps 107:1. 

(Here is the Koran link spoken of in the interview:  Koran Browse.  It is the version most quoted among all of The Islam Pages on this site.  Islam, the "religion", is absolutely incompatible with, and indeed seeks to ultimately destroy, everything to do with America, including her predominant religion.  In a similar way, examine the Communist Manifesto, which is heavily quoted among all The Marxism Pages on this site, to see that it represents the central core doctrines of Marxism.  And Marxism, too, is absolutely incompatible with, and indeed seeks to ultimately destroy, everything to do with America, including her predominant religion.) 

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Update Friday, November 27, 2015:

This latest Vortex highlights my greatest fear; that the Catholic Church in America is going the way of the American Government, and the whole political process.  Click the image for the video.  What Michael Voris is describing here is the Catholic version of what I described in Chapter 6; The Club: Our Anti-Ameircan Ruling Class, in Culture = Religion + Politics.  When political factions are allowed to coalesce into actual formalized Political Parties they always take on a life of their own, regardless of the original purpose of the organization or institution they were political factions of.  And they eventually oppose that purpose. 

It is a time for dividing.  See The Winnowing Pages. 

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Sarcastic Acronym Hover-Link Footnotes: For the convenience of those readers using devices that lack a mouse, these footnotes are provided for all webpages, in case any webpage contains any hover-links. (If you don't have a mouse, you can't "hover" it over a link without clicking just to see the simple acronym interpretation. Click any footnote link to see the acronym and a detailed explanation; "Hover" the mouse over it just to see the simple interpretation.)

SLIMC¹ Secularist Liberal Intellectual Media Complex
GESGOEAEOT² Gradually, Ever So Gradually, Over Eons And Eons Of Time
PEWAG³ Punctuated Equilibrium's Wild-Assed Guess
TTRSTF⁴ Them There Real Scientifical-Type Fellers
TTRSPTF⁵ Them There Real Smart Perfesser-Type Fellers
TTRSJTF⁶ Them There Real Smart Journalistical-Type Fellers
SNRTACBT⁷ Surely No Right Thinking Adult Could Believe Today
STNSEACPB⁸ Surely Today No Serious Educated Adult Could Possibly Believe
WDN⁹ We Don't Know
BMDFP¹⁰ Baboons, Mongrel Dogs, Filthy Pigs and ...
HBAACOTE¹¹ Human Beings Are A Cancer On The Earth
ACLU¹² Anti-Christian Litigation Union
FLORMPORIF¹³ Flagrant Liar, Or, Mindless Parrot, Or, Innocent Fool
MEJTML¹⁴ Marxist Ends-Justify-The-Means Liar
IEJTML¹⁵ Islamic Ends-Ends-Justify-The-Means Liar
MPAV¹⁶ Marxist Principles And Values
WBESSWG¹⁷ Wise, Benign, Elite, Super-Scientific World Governance
TRMITM¹⁸ The Reason Man's In This Mess
IYI¹⁹ Intellectual Yet Idiotic
TTRSCBTF²⁰ Them There Real Smart Catholic Bishop Type Fellers
IACMPVND²¹ Illegal-Alien-Criminal Marxocrat-Party-Voting Nation-Destroyers
PEJTML²² Palestinian Ends-Justify-The-Means Liar
PSYOP²³ "Psychological Operation" Mind Trick
CDC²⁴ Covid Developmentally Challenged
LGBTQ+ Every Letter Represents A Serious Psychotic sexual Identity Disorder
HEJTML²⁶ Hedonist Ends-Justify-The-Means Liar
SEJTML²⁷ Scientistic Ends-Justify-The-Means Liar

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Date:  Sat Nov 21 11:46:06 2015
From:  John
Email:   
Location:  Wyoming, PA
Comment: 

Vic,

Because you are currently occupied with "evil" American bishops and the fraudulent Syrian refuge scam, I feel obligated to re-direct you to a current scandal that has been brewing in the Vatican itself, which is known as "Vatigate".

This week a Vatican judge indicted five people, among them two journalists and Vatican monsignor, for leaking documents that spawned two books alleging financial malfeasance in the heart of the Roman Catholic Church. They were charged mainly with "disclosing confidential Vatican information". At least two had been arrested and questioned by the Vatican. Three Vatican "insiders" also face the charge by the Vatican of forming a "criminal organization".
Is the smell of irony thick in the air on this "criminal organization" charge, or is it just me? I always regarded "confidential information" to be personal information that should not be made public, but that it doesn't include information about persons who may be committing criminal malfeasance. I am also having trouble processing the idea of a Vatican judge and a Vatican police force.

What is your take on this?

BTW, here is the link:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_REL_VATICAN_SCANDAL?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-11-21-08-11-48  

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Date:  Sat Nov 21 2015
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment:  

John:

No, this really hasn't been on my radar.  I was vaguely aware of the previous scandal mentioned.  There should be no real surprise of a court system and police system, because the Vatican is also a soveriegn nation.  Popes have traditionally held rule over an autonomous nation, so that the Pope would not be forced to live under and be subject to any secular ruler.  In some past eras, the Papal estates were vast, and Popes even had suits of armor and rode at the head of armies, as rulers of domains were expected to do.  The Swiss Guard is a personal guard force, comparable to our Secret Service, but with a considerably longer history.  I really know nothing about the government organization, except that the Pope is absolute sovereign. 

I am surprised that non-citizens may be charged with a Vatican crime and extradited from another nation, unless the people charged somehow committed their crime or got their information somewhere in the Vatican itself. 

Regards,

Vic

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Date:  Mon Nov 23 2015
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment:  

It strikes me that the serious question that has no discernible answer regarding Crony Catholicism is the same one regarding Crony Capitalism.  In Crony Capitalism, the question is whether the Tyrannical Tycoons are actually running the Government Administration, or the Tyrannical Administration is actually running the Big Businesses.  At times, it is one, then the other; it alternates, depending on who needs what from whom.  Both parties to the cronyism are ruthless. 

So the same question must be asked regarding Crony Catholicism.  Are the tyrannical Bishops running the Obama Administration, or is the tyrannical Obama Administration running the USCCB.  And does it alternate, depending upon who needs what from whom.  And are both parties to the cronyism ruthless. 

It's a good question, and I don't know the answer. 

Regards,

Vic

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Date:  Mon Nov 23 23:10:46 2015
From:  Alex
Email:   alex1974@gmx.com
Location:  The New World
Comment: 

America was never a Christian land but a freemasonic organization from its inception. The USA revolutionaries made their first treaty with Tripoli in the year 1797 which states in Article XI: “…the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion…” The treaty was written under the presidency of 32nd degree freemason George Washington and signed under the presidency of the freemason John Adams.

By advocating libertarianism you promote the US constitution a Masonic document that teaches what Christianity calls “the Star-Spangled Heresy” also known as the Heresy of ‘Americanism’ – a term coined by His Holiness Lord Pope Leo XIII in his Apostolic Letter 'Testem Benevolentiae Nostrae' on January 22nd of 1899 – the prominent tenets of which are: 1.) Revolution – a heresy condemned by the Church in the Leonine Encyclical 'Quod Apostolici Muneris' of December 28th in the year 1878 AD and also the Bible in Romans 13:1-2 and 1 St. Peter 2:13-15 and Proverbs 8:15 etc 2.) the separation of the Church from state- a heresy condemned by Lord Pope Gregory XVI in the Encyclical 'Mirari Vos' on August 15th year 1832 AD 3.) Moral relativism- heresy condemned by His Majesty Lord Pope Leo XIII's April 20th year 1884 encyclical Humanum Genus 'on freemasonry' 4.) the idea that the authority of government comes from the consent of the governed- a heresy condemned Ex Cathedra by His Holiness and High Majesty Lord King Pope Pius IX on December 8th in the Encyclical Quanta Cura in the year 1864 AD.

Moreover in the Apostolic Letter 'Testem Benevolentiae Nostrae' His Holiness Lord King Pope Leo XIII condemns the heretical notion of "American Catholicism" because Catholicism is incompatible with a 'national church' due to its universality and the fact that the Papacy is the principle and foundation of unity in the Body of the Christ.

You say Christianity (i.e. the Church) is liberal: but this contradicts the Dogma that the Church is incorruptible. King Lord Pope Eugene IV at the Council of Florence in Session 9 on March 23rd in 1440: “…the Spouse of Christ is uncontaminated and modest…” Lord Pope Pius XI in the Encyclical 'Mortalium Animos' (#10) of Jan. 6 in 1928: "…the mystical Spouse of Christ has never been contaminated, nor can she ever in the future be contaminated…The Bride of Christ cannot be made false to her Spouse: she is incorrupt and modest.” His Holiness Lord Pope Hadrian I proclaims the same dogma at the Second Council of Nicaea in 787 and His High Majesty Lord Pope St. Siricius in his Feb. 10th year 385 epistle (1) ‘Directa ad decessorem’ to Himerius and His Holiness Lord Pope Gregory XVI in the Encyclical Mirari Vos (#10) Aug. 15th in AD 1832 repeats the same Dogma that the Church is incorruptible (i.e. indefectible). Finally Lord Pope Leo XIII condemns liberalism as heresy in His June 20th year 1888 AD Encyclical 'Libertas Praestantissimum' demonstrating why it is incompatible with Christianity.

You should watch the video "What Francis Really Believes (4th Edition)" on the internet.God says in St. Matthew 10:37 that to follow Him you need to put your mother and father and family in 2nd place as far as your order of priorities are concerned. This would also apply to ethnicity or nationality and it seems you are placing your "nationality" as the #1 priority instead of the Lord Jesus Christ and His Church.You quote the USA founders like Gospel instead of the Popes and Saints and Theologians and Priests and Church Fathers and Doctors of the Church.  

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Date:  Tue Nov 24 2015
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment:  

Alex:

Well well. 

Where to begin.  Let me go paragraph by paragraph. 

Your Paragraph 1:   Where, exactly, in our Founding documents, or in our Constitution, or in the Treaty you refer to, or in the Federalist Papers, or anywhere at all, do you find a declaration that America is a Masonic nation, or a Deist nation?  You will have to show me that. 

Your Paragraph 2:  First, I have never advocated Libertarianism; I have opposed it.  See the Opposing Libertarianism page, and the Definition of Libertarian page.  Second, I have never advocated Separation of Church and State; I have opposed it.  See the Separation of Church and State page. 

Your Paragraph 3:  If you think I favor the "American" Catholic Church, or the USCCB, then you have not read anything on this website. 

Your Paragraph 4:  I never said any such thing.  Show me where I ever said that "Christianity (i.e. the Church) is liberal".  I can't seem to find it.  Are you just making it up as you go along? 

Your Paragraph 5:  I do indeed put Christ first, family second and nation third.  I have said that all over this website.  Your charge is patently false.  I quote the Founders and the Framers, but not as "Gospel"; as Founders and Framers.  This is not a strictly religious site, nor a strictly political site; it is a cultural site, which demands a meeting of religion and politics.  If you can't handle that connection, perhaps you are on the wrong planet. 

I know how much you despise America, and how you would like to see her eliminated from the world.  But I don't see any recommendations of exactly what you would replace her with, or exactly how. 

Regards,

Vic

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Date:  Tue Nov 24 14:53:09 2015
From:  Alex
Email:   alex1974@gmx.com
Location:  The New World
Comment: 

You seem to defer to Michael Voris. Though I do not approve all of what he says: you should watch the video he made entitled: "The Star-Spangled Heresy" wherein even he admits that America was made and founded to war against the Catholic Church and that 9 of the 13 original colonies had anti-Catholic statutes. He also made a video about Ann Coulter (just type on the internet 'Michael Voris on Ann Coulter' and go to YouTube and watch his video that has the name 'Ann Coulter' in it) and he admits that "American identity" is incompatible with Catholicism and that Ann Coulter was right for saying that one cannot be a Catholic and an American at the same time. 

Contrary to what you have touted: America was never a Christian organization. This is demonstrated by its tenets and also its first treaty - the treaty of Tripoli Article XI.You also avidly support the USA constitution which I demonstrated (in my 2nd paragraph)to be absolutely incompatible with Catholic Dogma. The constitution teaches revolution, the separation of Church and state (by declaring that there will be no official establishment of religion. His Holiness Lord Pope Pius XI teaches in his Encyclical 'Dilectissima Nobis'(#6)of June 3rd, 1933 that the declaration that there will be no official recognition of religion is a reaffirmation of the separation of Church from state),the constitution also teaches the   doctrine that the authority of government comes from the consent of the governed,etc.    

In face of the facts that the USA is a masonic organization (your 1st president was a 32nd degree mason) you are setting up the arbitrary criteria that if the founding USA documents do not explicitly say it is a masonic organization: then this means it is not masonic. Such an explicit statement is not necessary in order to prove that America is a masonic organization. The fact that it is masonic is demonstrated by its founders, its tenets, and the admissions of the Masons etc including the fact that Washington DC is laid out in masonic symbolism and also the fact that the corner stone of 'civic' public buildings are always laid down by masons with a masonic ritual. “Consider the fact 52 of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence were members of the Freemasons. George Washington, who chaired the convention, was a past master of his Masonic lodge in Virginia.” (The Palm Beach Post – Saturday, January 23rd, 1988) Moreover “…23 of the 39 signers of the Constitution…comprise the Masonic Roll…” (Taken from the handbook What is Freemasonry? produced by the grand lodge of free & accepted masons of Tennessee)The 1829 New York State Senate Committee said concerning the masons that there were approximately 30,000 in the 'state of New York' - about one-fourth of the eligible voting population and "yet they have held for forty years, three-fourths of all public offices in the state."(from the document "Report Of A committee To the New York Senate, Together With Extracts From Other Authentic Documents Illustrating The Character And Principles Of Free Masonry" published by the direction of several citizens of New Haven and printed by Hezekiah Howe, 1829, pp. 13-14)During the time that the freemason Warren G. Harding was the president from 1921-1923: by 1923 300 of the 435 members of the U.S. house of representatives (69%) were masons and 30 of the 48 members of the U.S. senate (63%)were masons. (by Chalmers, book "Hooded Americanism, The First Century of the Ku Klux Klan" published by Doubleday and Co. Garden City, New York, 1965, pp. 282-283)The Masonic publication the 'New Age' of August 1962 said: "Masons set the basic policies of our society. Yet the order is not political, and its purposes are not public. It is RELIGIOUS."(New Age,August, 1962, p. 13)The most honored freemason in American history Albert Pike said: "This nation was nurtured on the ideals of Freemasonry...most of those who are today its leaders are also members and leaders of the Craft. they know that our American Democracy...is Freemasonry in government..."(Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma, p. 820) By the way Pike's book "Morals and Dogma" is recommended monthly by the Scottish rite masons to masons of the 4th degree and higher.

The fact that the USA is a masonic republic is also proven by its flags. The Confederacy and US flags are composed of the tricolor of red, white, and blue. It was adopted by the freemasonic French revolutionaries on their rebel flag to represent the slogan (and tri-heresy) “liberty, equality, fraternity.” According to the ‘World Atlas’ website: “Red, white and blue have come to represent liberty, equality and fraternity – the ideals of the French Revolution.”His Holiness King Lord Pope St. Pius X, Apostolic Letter on “the Sillon,” Aug. 15th, 1910: "…Liberty, Equality and Fraternity… A Doctrine Contrary to Catholic Truth… they fear not to draw between the Gospel and the revolution blasphemous comparisons…” The entire Apostolic Letter deals with why this slogan is so opposed to Christianity. Thus the revolutionary flag of France like the American flags are a symbol of heresy and it unfortunately seems there are still many in our day who fight for the heresy the tricolor represents: the elevation of man against God and the rejection of the Christian Faith and Monarchy which fundamentally uphold inequality and hierarchy.

You say there are liberal elements in the Church. That is equivalent to saying that the Church is liberal. Also my 3rd paragraph cites Catholic Teaching on why there is no such thing as "American Catholicism." This contradicts your 3rd paragraph which speaks of the existence of "the American Catholic Church." You purport to be a Catholic but promote a culture diametrically opposed to Catholic Dogma.

HIS HOLINESS AND HIGH MAJESTIES LORD KING POPE EUGENE IV, Council of Florence, Cantate Domino,1441, ex cathedra: “The Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that all those who are outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans but also Jews or heretics and schismatics,cannot share in eternal life and will go into the everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless they are joined to the Church before the end of their lives...”

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Date:  Tue Nov 24 2015
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment:  

Alex:

Ho hum, heavy sigh and here we go again. 

First, since you are quite obviously new to this site, let me inform you that your submissions do not automatically update here.  Nothing happens until I personally make it happen.  Everything is monitored, and I'm the monitor; this is a one man show, and I work for a living.  That means I'm not always here; I'm working.  Or I'm away for a weekend, maybe.  So just submit your comment once, not two or three or more times.  I'll get to it when I see it.  Patience; patience. 

Before you go off assuming what I believe without even having read what I've said on various topics, I recommend you look at Condemned Freemasonry, and maybe Outside the Church there is no salvation, just for openers.  Please, spend a little time in the Table of Contents before you launch your next salvo. 

You don't seem to be able to differentiate between Extraordinary Magisterium and the Ordinary Magisterium.  You refer to a statement by a Pope in an encyclical as an ex cathedra statement, which it is not.  See the Infalibillity page.  There you will see that a dogma is but an existing doctrine that has been raised to a higher level of importance by an official act of a Pope or a Council in union with a Pope, usually to settle a point of contention, in defense of the doctrine. 

You continue to insist that all of America is Masonic because it has Masons in it, and there were Masons in it from the beginning.  Well, guess what, there were lots of other kinds of people in it as well, and we do not recognize all of America as being what any of them are. 

You further insist that because there are liberals in the Church that the Church is liberal.  ???  Well, if it has conservatives in it, does that mean that the Church is conservative?  If it has Marxists in it, does that mean that the Church is Marxist? 

America's founding, design and organization came into being at the hands of men who were raised up in Judaeo-Christian morality.  Morality comes out of religion.  Judaeo-Christian morality came out of Judaeo Christian religion.  America is not based upon any of those religions (denominations) but on the morality common to all of them.  Our civil law, at least in its origins, was moral law.  It fit the moral code of the populace.  The Marxocrat Party is systematically destroying that, but their damage can still be undone, but not by those, like you, who just irrationally hate America from the beginning.  Most of us are a lot nicer to each other and to our nation. 

Perhaps your mother was frightened by a Mason before you were born or something.  You need to calm down, son.  You're starting to blither. 

Regards,

Vic

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Date:  Wed Nov 25 01:37:58 2015
From:  Alex
Email:   
Location:  
Comment: 

Your submission form said that the code entered in was wrong so I had to renter it repeatedly until the message stopped. I am not new to your website. You reject ‘Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus est’ (There Is No Salvation Outside the Church) by explaining it away to advocate for other means of salvation. Vatican 1 teaches that the words of a Dogmatic pronouncement must be believed exactly as declared: and that there must be no deviation from the declared meaning under the specious name of a deeper understanding.

Vatican 1 Sess. III, Chap. 3 teaches that the Solemn Magisterium and the Ordinary and Universal Magisterium are infallible. If a baptized person when presented with a doctrine of the Magisterium (whether it is the Solemn or Ordinary and Universal) decides to reject it: he places himself outside the Church. You claim the Encyclical ‘Quanta Cura’ is not an Ex Cathedra pronouncement. Actually it meets all the conditions requisite for an Ex Cathedra  proclamation as specified by Vatican 1 in Sess. 4, Chap. 4. It is Ex Cathedra teaching of the highest order. Perhaps your mistaken complaint that I did not distinguish the Extraordinary (i.e. Solemn) Magisterium from the Ordinary and Universal Magisterium is in desperation to the fact that I exhaustively demonstrated that the USA constitution teaches heresy and I presented the Magisterial Teachings it contradicts. Sadly you are obsessed with a 2 century old Masonic document and also your ancestors instead of the Catholic Faith and the Saints.

I did not say that America is Masonic simply because there are masons in it. The fact that there is an undeniable disproportionate preponderance of masons in the founding of the USA and also in political office down through modern times was only one among many of the numerous evidences I presented of why the USA is a Masonic republic. Another undeniable evidence was the tricolor of the masons on the US flags and the heretical slogan it represents.

You claim I said: ‘because there are liberals in the Church that the Church is liberal.” No I never said this. You did not read carefully. There are no liberals in the Church. Liberals are heretics.Liberalism is a heresy condemned by His Holiness and Lordship Pope Leo XIII in his June 20th, 1888 Encyclical ‘Libertas Praestantissimum’. Your statement that there are Marxists in the Church is heretical and blasphemous. The Catholic Church teaches (in Encyclical ‘Quadragesimo Anno’ n. 120, May 15th, 1931 by King Lord Pope Pius XI) that Socialism is fundamentally contrary to Christianity and that one cannot be at the same time a Catholic and a socialist. Communism is heresy condemned 35 times by Lord and King Pope Pius XI and 123 times by Lord King Pope Pius XII. The Catholic Church considers socialism and communism and nihilism one and the same. His Holiness Lord King Pope Leo XIII, ‘Quod Apostolici Muneris’, Dec. 28th, 1878, n.1: “…We speak of that sect of men, who under various and almost barbarous names, are called socialists, communists, or nihilists, and who, spread over all the world, and bound together by the closest ties in a wicked confederacy…” 

You said that “Morality comes from religion” and that the USA was founded on the basis of the “morality” of the myriad (false) religions that compose it. Well with such a statement not only are you admitting that “America is a land of pagans and heretics” (as Reverend Chisholm’s ‘Catechism of Christian Doctrine’ says – which was published for Catholics in America in the 1800s) but you also contradict the following statement you made in the article: “But if all religions are the same, then there is no such thing as religion.” False religions are immoral and by ascribing “morality” to them you deny the only Religion: His Holiness Lord King Pope St. Pius X teaches that there are no morals without the One True Religion. By ascribing “morality” to them you are basically saying they are the same (and even good). “Religious pluralism” is very unCatholic and very Masonic. The masons claim all “religions” lead to god through different paths. You also keep insisting that Christianity somehow played a prominent role in the founding of the USA despite the many facts to the contrary: for instance Article XI of the treaty of Tripoli which your own Masonic founders penned- who bluntly admit the Christian religion had nothing to do with the founding of the USA “government.” Considering the fact that the US constitution teaches numerous heresies it is astounding you continue to associate it with Christianity. You even make use of the phrase “Judeo-Christian” which is fundamentally contradictory and a negation. Christianity believes in Christ while Judaism/Talmudism rejects and blasphemes him. The Jews are the foremost persecutors of Christ and publicly campaign without end for the public suppression of all “Christological expressions” such as His name and His symbols and hymns and Christmas displays in public areas etc. The ‘Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith’ is a prime example of such activity. They are the #1 reason that Rosaries are banned in almost all public schools and are in fact identified as gang symbols -- they campaigned for this. The Church infallibly teaches at the Council of Florence etc that Judaism is a false religion that sends souls to Hell. There is just nothing similar as regards Christianity compared to the Jewish false religion. Albert Pike said in his book “Morals and Dogma” that much of the freemasonic ritual and symbolism is based on Judaism and that the Kabalah and Zohar are foundational works in freemasonry. Freemasonry was founded in 43 AD by Herod Agrippa to counter Christianity.  The men who founded America were freemasons and illuminists who hated Christendom and Monarchy. America can also be accurately described as Deist since it separates Church from state.

You say I need to calm down even though I am collected. The Church is marked by absolutistic intrepidity. It is characterized by strong utterance which you unfortunately misconstrue as to “blither.” You claim I have “irrational” hatred for the USA Masonic organization all because I presented the Magisterial documents which demonstrate that the US constitution’s tenets are heretical.  Non-Catholics aren’t Christians. HIS HOLINESS KING LORD POPE PIUS IX, Dec. 8th, 1849, Encyclical ' NOSTIS ET NOBISCUM (On The Church In The Pontifical States)' point # 17: "So it has been a common characteristic both of the ancient heretics and of the more recent Protestants -- whose disunity in all their other tenets is so great -- to attack the authority of the Apostolic See." Identifying heretics as “Christians” is incompatible with a possession of the Catholic Faith. I think it is clear you are going to remain an Americanist despite the consequences that this entails. It is a tragedy you do not take God seriously.

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Date:  Wed Nov 25 2015
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment:  

Alex: 

America, like the Roman Empire, is a civil organization, not a religion.  The American government is civil, not ecclesial government.  It describes itself; it does not depend upon others to describe it.  Your contention that the American government is and always was purely and exclusively Masonic in design, nature and operation is unsubstantiated personal opinion.  Cite all the Masonic documents and outside sources you want, your arguments do not change the facts on the ground. You don't get to redefine the American government. 

In order to be a heretic, one must first belong to the religion that declared him to be a heretic.  If he was outside the faith to begin with, he is not a heretic of that faith.  Luther, for instance, was a heretic.  From that it does not follow that, centuries later, all raised up in the Lutheran tradition are heretics.  Erroneous, yes, but not heretical, for they were never in the faith, except that they may be "imperfect" or incomplete Catholics, if they were baptized in the proper manner.  They were never fully formed and catechized Catholics.  The American Founders were, predominantly, Protestant, with a few notable Catholic exceptions.  Again, they were forming a civil government, not an ecclesial one. 

Note also that this was before the strictly secular French Revolution, which included a rigid separation of Church and State, the very idea of which was the impetus for the Church declaration against "Americanism".  It was the irreligious individual liberty that was condemned under the name of Americanism.  The American civil government, which existed before the French Revolution and before the condemnation of Americanism, was not secular.  It freed religion from civil government control, rather than either suppressing it entirely, or dictating some form of it. 

So, your choices, rigid as your views are, are to either have America

1. go out of existence, or,
   
2. force everyone into Catholicism, or,
   
3. shoot, imprison or banish all non-Catholics, and,
   
4. reconstitute America as a strict Catholic Theocracy. 
   

Perfection is not of this world, Alex, but the next.  Here you work with what you've got, and do the best you can. 

Regards,

Vic

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Date:  Thu Nov 26 2015
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment:  

Alex is blocked, from this point on.  Enough of this blather.

Alex insists that all of the majority Protestant population of America submit their will to the Papal encyclical of a long dead Pope, which he falsely claims to be an actual third "ex cathedra" pronouncement of a Pope, turn America into a Catholic theocracy, amend the Constitution to agree with the encyclical, or get out of the country.  And/or, all Catholic Americans must denounce America and leave it, or something.  And until all that happens, he will not stop submitting his tiresome repetitive polemics here. 

I'll just stay here, and work with imperfect America in whatever way I can.  I hope you will too. 

Regards,

Vic

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Date:  Mon Nov 30 2015
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment:  

I have been questioned in private conversations about Alex's contention that a Pope has condemned the idea, enshrined in our Declaration of Independence, that authority to govern is dependent upon the consent of the governed.  Since I continue to defend that American idea, does that not make me subject to judgment, when I die, for opposing the authority of Peter. 

I am not absolutely certain, one way or another.  But I do know that civil government organization was no part of the divine revelation of Jesus Christ and His original Apostles, which forms the permanent Depositum Fide.  So that makes a Papal pronouncement favoring dictatorship over representative government a bit shaky.  That's point one. 

And if America is to be governed independent of the consent of the governed, then, with whose consent is she to be governed?  A Lenin, or an Obama, or a Mohammed?  That's point two. 

The American government was established by Protestants (in the overwhelming majority) not Catholics.  They were not bound by Catholic Papal pronouncements (and this one had not issued yet) nor was the Constitution a Catholic document.  The Church holds no authority over the American government.  That's point three. 

We remain a predominantly Protestant nation, by population, with Catholics representing the largest single religion in America.  But we are not numerous enough, even if we were so inclined, to pass any Constitutional Amendment taking ourselves out of the Republican process and just allowing our government to become completely authoritarian. 

Popes do not speak with infallible authority on topics outside the original deposit of faith, which was closed and permanently sealed with the death of the last original Apostle. 

Regards,

Vic

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