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Cardinal Kasper's False Arguments.
Pope Benedict, Cardinal Kasper's false arguments for Synod Report: Vatican Council II agrees with the dogma extra ecclesiam nullas salus as it was interpreted by the 16th century missionaries.
Lionel Andrades, Thursday,
March 24, 2016
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Catholics have to be prepared for Cardinal Walter Kasper's false arguments when the Synod Report is out. He will say since the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) has been discarded and developed, the Church's teachings on giving the Eucharist to the divorced and remarried or persons in mortal sin, also needs to be changed.
It is important to note after Easter that the teachings on EENS has not been developed if there is no known salvation outside the Church. It is only by assuming there is known salvation outside the Church that it is possible to change this dogma on salvation. Cardinal Kasper has to confuse what is invisible as being visible. Then he has to infer that these invisible cases are 'visible exceptions' to the dogma EENS and so the dogma has 'developed'.
Cardinal Kasper has already stated in an interview that if ecclesiology can be changed then even the practise of giving the Eucharist to the divorced and remarried can be changed.
- He and others are expected to cite the recent interview given by Pope Benedict XVI to Avvenire on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus having been developed by Vatican Council II and the faith having been changed.
- It has been reported that 'Benedict XVI proceeds in his reply in detail on the "development of this dogma" Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus, because since the beginning of modern times, the historical perspectives with respect to the Middle Ages had changed "radically".'
Lionel:
When this argument is used it is important to point out that the change is only there when it is assumed there is known salvation outside the Church. Without this premise there is no change in the interpretation of the dogma.
When Kasper quotes Pope Benedict saying, 'Thus, with the fact that the Second Vatican Council has "definitely" abandoned the belief that there is no salvation for unbaptized..."' the contrary has to be shown.
Lionel:
It has to be said that Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14) says 'all' need 'faith and baptism' for salvation. Most people die without 'faith and baptism'. They are oriented to Hell at the time of death. So Vatican Council II is in agreement with the dogma extra ecclesiam nullas salus as it was interpreted by the 16th century missionaries.
Cardinal Kasper could point to Pope Benedict XVI saying "On the one hand it seems to withdraw any ... future missionary commitment. Why convince people of accepting the Christian faith, even if they can be saved without it?".
Lionel:
It is important to note that Pope Benedict assumes there is salvation outside the Church even though he does not know of any one saved outside the church during his life time. No one in the past too could have seen someone in Heaven saved without 'faith and baptism'. So the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 made an objective mistake when it suggests the baptism of desire etc refers to known cases, visible to human beings and so it is an exception to the Feeneyite interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
So there is no known salvation outside the church.
Pope Benedict's theology, is the same as that of Fr. Karl Rahner and it is based on a factual error, i.e., being physically able to see poeple in Heaven or earth saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.
Pope Benedict said 'but for Christians, the question on the necessity of faith and manner of life was uncertain and problematic.'
Lionel:
Pope Benedict assumes Lumen Gentium 14 (being saved in invincible ignorance) refers to not invisible but visible cases. So for him Vatican Council II (LG 14) is a break with the dogma EENS.
But for me LG 14 refers to invisible cases known only to God if they exist. So for me LG 14 is not a break with the dogma EENS.
Since LG 14 refers to known cases for Pope Benedict and Cardinal Kasper, there is a development of doctrine on EENS.
Since for me LG 14 refers to invisible cases, not objectively seen, there is no development of doctrine on EENS based on LG 14.
Since LG 14 refers to objectively visible cases for Pope Benedict there is salvation outside the Church and so 'there are those who can be saved in other ways'.
For me there is no objectively visible case of someone saved in invincible ignorance or a good conscience and that too without the baptism of water. So there are no known cases of 'those who can be saved in other ways'.
The dogma EENS has not changed for me and EENS should not be used as an argument to give the Eucharist to the divorced and remarried.
Pope Benedict observed, as if in preparation for the Synod report, 'But if the faith and salvation are not dependent on each other, the faith is also groundless.'
Lionel:
Faith and salvation are dependent on each other. Every one needs to be a Catholic for salvation. This includes non Catholics and non Christians. The dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus is clear and it is not contradicted by Vatican Council II (in which LG 14 refers to invisible cases).
-Lionel Andrades
- Pope Benedict's heretical interview to Avvenire prepares Catholics to receive a sacrilegeous Synod report after Easter http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/03/pope-benedicts-heretical-interview-to.html
- Pope Benedict uses irrational Cushingism as a theology to interpret Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus : he was unaware of the choice http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/03/pope-benedict-uses-irrational.html
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Luke 21: 29-31: Some Signs Of America’s Abandonment
And Spiritual Bondage
Trump and His Communist Enemies The Demonized Joe McCarthy Turned Out To Be Accurate In Everything He Claimed: Fox News Is Wrong About Him And About Much More
Fox Is the Leading "Trans" Channel There are some rather peculiar goings-on at the Fox News Channel.
Supernatural Genesis 1-11 vs. Pagan Darwinism God and Liberty or Fallen Mankind and Tyranny
Satanism, Communism: What's The Difference? Look To The Roots Of Communism
Evil in the White House In This War, The Enemy Is In The Ranks, Standing Right Next To You
Psychopathy and the Western and American Tyranny of Evil Leftist Progressive Myths
The Next Phase of Obama’s “Permanent Revolution” By Cliff Kincaid
Climate Emergency To Produce a New World Order By Cliff Kincaid
Raising the New Tower-- Occult Evolution: Antediluvian, Babylonian and Modern Expressions
De-Nazification and De-Communization in Russia The The mutual non-aggression Hitler-Stalin Pact, which started World War II, has been carefully “forgotten”
God to Mankind: NOW Do You See the Stupidity, Depravity, and Evil in Your Hearts?
Making Russia Great Again By Cliff Cinkaid
Our Call to Battle: Rise of the Spirit of Antichrist Prayer Article: “And this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.” (1 John 4:3)
The Last Hour and the New World Order Prayer
On the "Days Of Rage" Planned For The 2024 Marxocrat Party Convention Some of you just couldn't believe that the formerly Democrat (Confederate) Party had already gone totally Communist before the 1968 Party Convention
The enemies of God, reality, truth, western civilization and our souls Linda Kimbal column
Revisiting Nihilism: The Will Turned Toward Evil and the Destruction of Western and American Civilization
Nihilism…All That Exists is Matter and Energy The Worldview that Caused the Collapse of Christendom and Protestant America
Obama’s New Nazi-Communist Alliance
Moscow Terror Attack is Another KGB Operation to Fool the West
Terrorist Attack in Baltimore By Cliff Kincaid
The presence and influence of powers, principalities, and demons in our age of apostasy into godlessness
Christendom and Protestant America’s Apostasy into Paganism A Timeline
System of Lies: Ideological Paradise on Earth and Why the Bloody, Violent Dream Will Not Die
Prayer Against Wicked Ideologues Rescue us, O Lord!
Trump is a Marked Man By Cliff Kincaid
The evil materialist faith of global Luciferianism, Technocracy, Socialism, and Marxism
Trump is Destroying Reagan's Legacy By Cliff Kincaid
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Enter ye in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and
Broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and many there are who go in
thereat. How narrow is the gate, and strait is the way that leadeth to life:
and few there are that find it! Beware of false prophets, who come to you in
the clothing of sheep, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Jesus
Christ; Matthew 7:13–15
Nito Gnoci
Linda Kimball
The evil materialist faith of global Luciferianism, Technocracy, Socialism, and Marxism
Prayer Against Wicked Ideologues Rescue us, O Lord!
System of Lies: Ideological Paradise on Earth and Why the Bloody, Violent Dream Will Not Die
Christendom and Protestant America’s Apostasy into Paganism A Timeline
The presence and influence of powers, principalities, and demons in our age of apostasy into godlessness
Nihilism…All That Exists is Matter and Energy The Worldview that Caused the Collapse of Christendom and Protestant America
Revisiting Nihilism: The Will Turned Toward Evil and the Destruction of Western and American Civilization
The enemies of God, reality, truth, western civilization and our souls Linda Kimbal column
The Last Hour and the New World Order Prayer
Our Call to Battle: Rise of the Spirit of Antichrist Prayer Article: “And this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.” (1 John 4:3)
God to Mankind: NOW Do You See the Stupidity, Depravity, and Evil in Your Hearts?
Raising the New Tower-- Occult Evolution: Antediluvian, Babylonian and Modern Expressions
Psychopathy and the Western and American Tyranny of Evil Leftist Progressive Myths
Supernatural Genesis 1-11 vs. Pagan Darwinism God and Liberty or Fallen Mankind and Tyranny
Luke 21: 29-31: Some Signs Of America's Abandonment And Spiritual Bondage
Eternal Paradise Or Hell? How And Why Both Choices Are Freely Made
Luciferian Humanists: Citing the Genesis Account is Evil "Any country grounded in Judaeo-Christian values can't be overthrown until those roots are cut ... "
Who is intolerant because ashamed: Creationists or Evolutionary Theists?
Death of the Christian God in Hearts of All Humans Why America and W. Europe are Committing Suicide
THE WORLDVIEW OF EVIL SPIRITS - an article by Linda Kimball MAGICAL MYSTERY CHURCH
Pagan-Darwinian-Materialism Redoubt of Miserable Self-Deceived Non-Self Nihilists
Americas' Spiritually Dead, Deep State and Ruling Class Nihilists Walking Dead Parasitic Idolaters
Doctrines of Demons and the Modern Pagan and Pantheist Antithesis The West's Greatest Threat
Gnosis: The Main Expression of Paganized Christianity in the New Age Inner Knowing, Self-Salvation
Our Age of Malicious Perversion How Truth, Meaning, and Reality Have Been Perverted
The Serpent's Gnostic Luciferian Elite Oligarchy and Global Powers Demonic Darkness Over the West and America
The Creation Model Versus Modern Pagan Models
2 Corinthians 10:5
What Kind of God Do You Believe In?
2 Cor. 10:5 Destroying 'scientific' arguments for false Gods
Evil Spirits, Death of God, Satanic Inversion Pagan America's Reality of Madness, Demonic Bondage, and Non-Self
Judgment and Wrath The Biblical Explanation for Madness and Evil
The Worldview of Evil Spirits Revolution, Evolution, Materialism, Nihilism, New World Order, and More
Gnosis The Main Expression of Modern Paganized Christianity
America's Transformation Into A Mystical Pantheist God-State What the Death of God Has Wrought
Message to All Wearied Truthtellers: Let Isaiah Be Your Inspiration the Remnant
The Triune God, Supernatural Heaven, Souls, Hell, and Demons Do They Exist?
Teachings of Demons The Aeon of Horus, Reign of God-Men, and End of the Christian God
Revelation 2:7" ...the closing of a steel door – a solemn, cataclysmic slamming of a door."
Systemic Nihilism: End of the Human Race Eternal Damnation of Human Souls
Infernal Apocalyptic Atmosphere Over America Disintegration into nothing
Global and Ruling Class Criminal Elitists Their Ring of Power and Pact with the Spirit of Death and Hell
Blessed is the Man Who Does Not Listen to Falling Stars Who Follow After Damnable Heresies
Darwinism: An Abomination Aborting and Rotting the Church. The falling away and apostasy from the one true and personal Holy Triune Creator God has not ended
The Evil One and the Impenitent Who Receive His Mark“. And the LORD God formed man (and) breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” Genesis 2:7
The Fall of Mankind, the Religion of Evolution, and the Antichrist. "Pride goes before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall." Proverbs 16:18
Why Secular Liberals Actively Promote Evil. Mentally Retarded Liberals
Cultural Marxism. The Many Hidden Faces of Living Active Communism
The Devil, the Big Bang, Evolution, Extraterrestrials and the Genesis Problem
The Ascension To Power Of Misogyny. Hatred of Women
Gnostic Chiliastic Evolution: Satan's Alternative Plan of Salvation. The Great Reset
Why Proclaiming Jesus Christ the Word Became Flesh is Offensive. The Technocratic Utopian World Order
The Divine Androgyne, Pandemonium, and the Battle for Our Souls. Satan's Rising New World Order
America's Modern Pagan Oligarchy, Aztec Gods, and Human Sacrifice. Isaiah 57 Revisited
The Peace Symbol: Occult Sign Meaning Death Against Christians. Hatred of Jesus Christ and Christianity
Americas’ Spiritually Desolate, Parasitic, Ruling Class Nihilists. Satan and Powers and Principalities
Global Oligarchy, Forces of Darkness, and the Spirit of Antichrist. Forces Darkness Within Church and State
Darwinism: Idol of mind symbolizing hatred of Triune Creator God. And Logical End of America
Is the World a Computer Simulation in the Minds of Robotic Overlords? Magic Science, Transhumanists, Gnostic Physicists.
Your soul: Cost of admission to the Progressive Pagan City of Man. New Egypt, Babylon, Sodom and Gomorrah
Iron Curtain Over American Minds Progressive Marxisms’ Ideological Utopia
Satan’s New World Order Blueprint and Key Strategy. Christian Capitulation To the Serpent's Consensus Process
Chaos, Breakdown, Demoralization, Destruction: America's New Normal. How it came about and where we are going.
Demonic Darkness: America's Invisible Wave of Evil. Staring into the abyss
Cain, Marxism, Leftism and America's ruling class of 'superior' humans. The dragon they have in common
Modernist Christians in a Man-Centered Universe. Scientific Neutrality and Biblical Deconstruction
The Connection Between Baphomet and Why Researchers Are Creating Interspecies Embryos. 2 Corinthians 10:5
Isaiah 57 revisited: America's progressive pagan elites. Staring into the Abyss
Evolutionary Theism Implies That Christ is Wrong About Creation. "For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?" John 5:46-47
Utopianism. Progressive Utopian Cultural Marxism Poisoning Minds, Churches, Schools, Politics
Acts 17:18-19-modern pagan and pantheist antithesis of the Word of God Ecclesiates 1:9 "What has been is what will be.."
Trotsky's Permanent Revolution From Hell In America. The Soviet System in America
Why Transgenderism Is Being Forced Upon America and Our Children. The Divine Androgyne
The Evil Eye Of Envy: Why Being ‘White’ Is Offensive To Some People. No Vice Worse Than Envy
Absolute Nothingness and Non-Self: The Reigning Worldview of Global Power Elites and Western Ruling Classes
What is Evil? Man-made alternative realities
Cliff Kincaid
Trump is Destroying Reagan's Legacy By Cliff Kincaid
Trump is a Marked Man By Cliff Kincaid
Terrorist Attack in Baltimore By Cliff Kincaid
Moscow Terror Attack is Another KGB Operation to Fool the West
Obama’s New Nazi-Communist Alliance
On the "Days Of Rage" Planned For The 2024 Marxocrat Party Convention Some of you just couldn't believe that the formerly Democrat
(Confederate) Party had already gone totally Communist before the 1968
Party Convention
Making Russia Great Again By Cliff Cinkaid
De-Nazification and De-Communization in Russia The The mutual non-aggression Hitler-Stalin Pact, which started World War II, has been carefully “forgotten”
Climate Emergency To Produce a New World Order By Cliff Kincaid
The Next Phase of Obama’s “Permanent Revolution” By Cliff Kincaid
Evil in the White House In This War, The Enemy Is In The Ranks, Standing Right Next To You
Satanism, Communism: What's The Difference? Look To The Roots Of Communism
Fox Is the Leading "Trans" Channel There are some rather peculiar goings-on at the Fox News Channel.
Trump and His Communist Enemies The Demonized Joe McCarthy Turned Out To Be Accurate In Everything He Claimed: Fox News Is Wrong About Him And About Much More
The Five Stooges on Capitol Hill They Think We Need Even More Doped No-Hopers In The American Intelligence Community
The Biden Doctrine of Demoralization and Defeat By Cliff Kincaid
A Republican Church Committee? Do Pro-American Republicans Even Know Who Frank Church Really Was?
A Top to Bottom Housecleaning of America When we clean our house, my wife has a slogan, “Top to bottom,” meaning you have to target the whole house. The same advice applies to nations.
China's Mass Murder Experiment Phase Two
Bury The Dead And Move On Fuggedaboutit!
9/11 Truth This is the real 9/11 Truth: Our “intelligence” agencies are infiltrated.
Moving Toward Gorbachev’s “World of Communism” It's called the Monster Plot.
The Errors of Russia, the Dupes of Putin, and Another Holocaust Can The Increasingly Faithless Free World Be Saved From Russia?
World War Quietly Conquering A Distracted and Blithely Unaware World. Could it actually be Satan's world war on despised humanity?
Stand With Ukraine Against Russia and China By Cliff Kincaid
Tucker Carlson Carlson Gets His Comeuppance. Tucker's View: It is not moral for us to intervene in support of any nation's (Ukraine's) democratic self-determination and against Soviet military expansion.
The Need for Secure Borders. Have we so easily forgotten what borders are for? Have we forgotten that evil exists in the world? Have we forgotten how to keep apart from this evil?
Can Ukraine Survive Putin and Biden? Can America? Can the Free World? Can Faith in God?
The Soviet Union: Back From The Dead The Return of the Evil Empire
Could an American Surrender be in the offing with Biden at the wheel? Is this not the perfect time for Communism to strike, with Commies now governing America, China and Russia? What would Biden do?
Abortion and Communism. If you ever wondered where all the popular abortion-contraception-sexuality-perversion nuttiness came from, look to Marx's Communist Manifesto.
The Secret Life of Martin Luther King, Jr. A life almost totally at odds with his reputation as a minister of the Gospel.
"We belong to the Church militant; and She is militant because on earth the powers of darkness are ever restless to encompass Her destruction. Not only in the far-off centuries of the early Church, but down through the ages and in this our day, the enemies of God and Christian civilization make bold to attack the Creator's supreme dominion and sacrosanct human rights." --Pope Pius XII
"It is not lawful to take the things of others to give to the poor. It is a sin worthy of punishment, not an act deserving a reward, to give away what belongs to others." --St. Francis of Assisi
Truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.—Winston Churchill
The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.—Ayn Rand
Atheist Genesis:
In the beginning there was nothing, and nothing happened to nothing.And then nothing accidentally exploded and created everything.
And then some bits of everything accidentally encountered other bits of everything and formed some new kinds of everything.
And then some bits of everything accidentally arranged themselves into self-replicating bits of everything.
And then some self-replicating bits of everything accidentally arranged themselves into dinosaurs.
See?
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