Formerly the Thinking Catholic Strategic Center
Confirming Culture=Religion+Politics
Earnest H., Sun Jun 10 07:25:56 2012
https://www.catholicamericanthinker.com
Vic,
You seem to be intellectually mixed up; perhaps you have too many unrelated irons in the same fire. You mix economic systems with political systems, you mix religion into everything, you have a fuzzy self-defined definition of wealth, of work, of jobs, how to create jobs, how to create wealth, etc., etc., etc. You attack applied Communism as "impossible" and applied Socialism as "failed" in many short-term examples. What you fail to note is that the product of applied Capitalism is illusory, and that Capitalism, based on illusion, must fail in the long run.
Seeing wealth as the collection of material possessions, you demonstrate how people seeking to increase wealth organize into groups for that sole purpose, but you don't recognize the monster this organization evolves into. Eventually the whole thing must fail, because it is all an illusion; nothing in Capitalism is real.
At some point people and their activities must be controlled by a reasonable system for the benefit of all, else, all will be doomed by eventual catastrophic breakdown of the whole thing.
The only reason you can demonstrate isolated failures of Socialist systems is that they are isolated systems, when they should be incorporated into one global system.
If you would wastefully expend less of your thinking on religion and productively apply more of it to pure economics and reality you would no doubt see these things more clearly.
Regards,
Earnest
Earnest:
Well, one of us is certainly lost in space here.
It is my contention and unshakable position that God is at the center of all truth, and is indeed the Truth. You disagree with that position. I talked about where divorce from religion leads Western man in the On Evil and Nonsense page, where people and cultures who ignore God lose the ability to even recognize evil, and thereby lose any sense of right vs. wrong, i.e., common sense, thereby becoming susceptible to nonsense.
And, we talked about the danger involved in accepting any sort of Compromise, gentlemanly or otherwise, with positions based on untruth and/or nonsense. There we said that compromise with evil begins the ultimate death spiral, and that compromise on any Vital Principle leads to death, for individual souls and for whole cultures.
That being said, let me try to nutshell Capitalism, which I champion, and Marxism, which you champion
Capitalism, unlike any variant of Marxism – Social Democracy; Democratic Socialist Republic; Socialism; Dictatorship of the Proletariat; Communism; Fascism; Nazism; Pure Dictatorship masquerading as a Socialism or a Communism; etc. - is not a planned or controlled system. The government has nothing to do with it, other than to cause it harm.
When man enjoys the legal and legitimate and protected rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, which our Declaration declares to be authored by God, then, Capitalism = The Free Market just naturally springs into being. It is natural. It is not controlled. To whatever degree any government limits or controls it, to that same degree does it cease to be Capitalism = The Free Market.
Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness means that a man is free to work in his own self-interest and to profit by the work of his own hands. “By the sweat of your brow shall you earn your bread” (Gen. 3:19) said the Lord to man. Since the dawn of Specialization, man has sought to produce more of whatever he produces than he needs to merely survive. More than he needs for food, shelter, clothing – more than just getting by. The excess produced – whether it be extra product of some kind to sell, extra food produced, extra time put in for extra pay, or whatever – the excess over what is needed for mere survival is what we call Profit = Wealth = Private Property. Producing this Profit = Wealth = Private Property is what we call trying to get ahead.
Only people produce Profit = Wealth = Private Property. Governments only consume it. Here in America, we limit government authority to tax Profit = Wealth = Private Property only to the extent that is needed to support the government itself in fulfilling its extremely limited Constitutional responsibilities of governing. The business of producing Profit = Wealth = Private Property is not the business of government; it is the business of the people, endowed by their Creator with the rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
Marxism – the opposite of Capitalism – that which you champion – is a rigidly planned and controlled economy and a rigidly planned and controlled society. It is a radical mixture of politics and economics, because it controls the people first, and all property second. Control of the people must come first; property may not be confiscated and redistributed until the people are under strict control of the government. If you read Marx’s Manifesto carefully, you will see that he speaks not only of the distribution of property, but also the “equitable” distribution of the people. (Shut up and get on the cattle car?) Thus it is you, not I, who “mix economic systems with political systems,” for Marxism is just such a forced mixture.
As for the “monster” organizations aimed at producing Profit = Wealth = Private Property, i.e., corporations and other business entities, they operate competitively, just like individuals, and they always seek competitive advantage. When they get too big and move toward monopolistic control of segments of the free market, they need to be reigned in by government. However, when government is corrupt, and when business is also corrupt, another avenue is open to them by which to gain advantage or even to crush opposition – it is called Crony Capitalism. That is what morphed into Fascism in Italy and Nazism in Germany. Today we see the same relationships between the Obama regime and our biggest banks, GE, GM, Chrysler and other major corporations, at the same time as similar relationships grow with Big Labor, including SEIU, UAW, AFL/CIO, NEA and a host of others.
These “monster” organizations are not Capitalist; they are more akin to Fascist. Comrade Obama, peace be upon him, holds them all on a tight leash, just as did Mussolini in his day, and just as did Hitler in his day.
Your error is in seeing opposition to Capitalism = The Free Market in corporate and government entities that are simply not Capitalist, and that restrict and seek to control Capitalism = The Free Market. That moves them to the Marxist (Nazi-Fascist branch) side of the street.
With the extreme Regulations on business today, and with the punitive and confiscatory taxes, what we have in America may no longer be called Capitalism = The Free Market. We, too, have become more Socialist than Constitutional.
That’s what this site is all about. It is worse now, under this regime, than ever; however, our government has been moving out from under the legitimate constraints of our Constitution for over a hundred years.
This has got to stop, and it must be turned around.
Regarding what might be real and what illusory, all of American history proves that Capitalism = The Free Market is real, and that people are quite capable of producing Profit = Wealth = Private Property. Even in spite of the efforts of such as Woodrow Wilson, FDR and others, people still were able to excel. Even today, in spite of Comrade Obama (peace be upon him) there are people who still manage to excel. So we see physical examples of the success of Capitalism = The Free Market, and we see physical examples of the failure of various Socialisms, and yet you insist that “in the long run” Socialism will succeed and Capitalism will fail.
Based on what? Some illusory theory?
In the God and Nature page we talked about the author of nature and about man’s perversions of nature, often done with the best of intentions. You do not believe nature has an author; that’s fine, and your free will choice to make. But if you cannot see how Marxism seeks to take control of a natural thing and turn it into a rigidly controlled thing, and how that is bad for the very nature of the thing being changed, then perhaps you are beyond hope.
It is never good to mess with Mother Nature.
Regards,
Vic.
Sarcastic Acronym Hover-Link Footnotes: For the convenience of those readers using devices that lack a mouse, these footnotes are provided for all webpages, in case any webpage contains any hover-links. (If you don't have a mouse, you can't "hover" it over a link without clicking just to see the simple acronym interpretation. Click any footnote link to see the acronym and a detailed explanation; "Hover" the mouse over it just to see the simple interpretation.)
SLIMC1 Secularist Liberal Intellectual Media Complex
[All Web Pages listed in Site Map by date-of-publication;
oldest at the top, newest at the bottom of the list.]
Culture=Religion+Politics; Who Are We? Vic Biorseth
The Brilliantly Conceived Organization of the USA; Vic Biorseth
Return to the BLOG page
Return to the HOME PAGE
Subscribe to our Free E-Zine News Letter
Long Live Israel
|
Long Live Ukraine
|
Long Live Taiwan
|
Long Live South Korea
|
Respond to This Article Below The Last Comment
Comment
Respond to this WebPage immediately below the last comment.
Or,
Respond to this WebPage immediately below the last comment.
Or,Publish
your own whole new Article from right here.
Date: Sat Jun 16 06:38:08 2012
From: Vic Biorseth
Comment:
Earnest H.:
Has the cat got your tongue?
Regards,
Vic
Tuesday, March 12, 2013
Converted Page to SBI! Release 3.0 BB 2.0.
Date: Mon Dec 01 2014
From: Vic Biorseth
Comment:
Changes pursuant to changing the website URL
and name from
Thinking Catholic Strategic
Center to
Catholic American Thinker.
Pulled the trigger on the 301 MOVE IT option June 1, 2014. Working my way through all the webpages. .
Regards,
Vic
Language and Tone Statement
Please note the language and tone of this monitored Website. This is not the place to just stack up vulgar one-liners and crude rejoinders. While you may support, oppose or introduce any position or argument, submissions must meet our high Roman Catholic and Constitutional American standards of Truth, logical rigor and civil discourse. We will not participate in merely trading insults, nor will we tolerate participants merely trading insults. Participants should not be thin-skinned or over sensitive to criticism, but should be prepared to defend their arguments when challenged. If you don't really have a coherent argument or counter-argument of your own, sit down and don't embarrass yourself. Nonsensical, obscene or blindly and doggedly repetitious anti-Catholic, antisemitic, anti-American, immoral or merely insulting submissions will not be published here. If you have something serious to contribute to the conversation, be prepared to back it up, keep it clean, keep it civil, and it will be published. We humbly apologize to all religious conservative thinkers for the need to even say these things, but the Hard Left is what it always was, the New Leftist Liberals are what they are, and the Internet is what it is.
"Clickbait" advertising links are not acceptable for posting here.
If
you fear intolerant Leftist repercussions, do not use your real name
and do not include email or any identifying information. Elitist Culturally Marxist Pure Authoritarians cannot and will not tolerate your freedom of speech or any opposition to their
rigid authoritarian, anti-equality, anti-life, anti-liberty,
anti-private-property, hedonistic, anti-Constitution, pro-Marxist, pro-Islam, pro-sodomy, pro-sin, anti-Catholic, anti-Christian, anti-Semitic, anti-male, sexist, anti-heterosexual, anti-white, racist, anti-Western,
anti-American, Globalist, anti-Nation, blatantly immoral, totally
intolerant and bigoted point of view. This Site will not publish their intolerant and unwavering screeds.
Copyrighted Material
Never be lukewarm.
Life itself demands passion.
He who is indifferent to God has already forfeited his soul.
He who is indifferent to politics has already forfeited his liberty.
In America, religion is not mere window dressing and citizenship is not a spectator sport. Do not allow our common destiny as a whole people to just happen without your input.
Seek the Truth; find the Way; live the Life; please God, and live forever.
All Published Articles
By Publication Date
Enter ye in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and
Broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and many there are who go in
thereat. How narrow is the gate, and strait is the way that leadeth to life:
and few there are that find it! Beware of false prophets, who come to you in
the clothing of sheep, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Jesus
Christ; Matthew 7:13–15
The evil materialist faith of global Luciferianism, Technocracy, Socialism, and Marxism
Prayer Against Wicked Ideologues Rescue us, O Lord!
System of Lies: Ideological Paradise on Earth and Why the Bloody, Violent Dream Will Not Die
Christendom and Protestant America’s Apostasy into Paganism A Timeline
The presence and influence of powers, principalities, and demons in our age of apostasy into godlessness
Nihilism…All That Exists is Matter and Energy The Worldview that Caused the Collapse of Christendom and Protestant America
Revisiting Nihilism: The Will Turned Toward Evil and the Destruction of Western and American Civilization
The enemies of God, reality, truth, western civilization and our souls Linda Kimbal column
The Last Hour and the New World Order Prayer
Our Call to Battle: Rise of the Spirit of Antichrist Prayer Article: “And this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.” (1 John 4:3)
God to Mankind: NOW Do You See the Stupidity, Depravity, and Evil in Your Hearts?
Raising the New Tower-- Occult Evolution: Antediluvian, Babylonian and Modern Expressions
Psychopathy and the Western and American Tyranny of Evil Leftist Progressive Myths
Supernatural Genesis 1-11 vs. Pagan Darwinism God and Liberty or Fallen Mankind and Tyranny
Luke 21: 29-31: Some Signs Of America's Abandonment And Spiritual Bondage
Eternal Paradise Or Hell? How And Why Both Choices Are Freely Made
Luciferian Humanists: Citing the Genesis Account is Evil "Any country grounded in Judaeo-Christian values can't be overthrown until those roots are cut ... "
Who is intolerant because ashamed: Creationists or Evolutionary Theists?
Death of the Christian God in Hearts of All Humans Why America and W. Europe are Committing Suicide
THE WORLDVIEW OF EVIL SPIRITS - an article by Linda Kimball MAGICAL MYSTERY CHURCH
Pagan-Darwinian-Materialism Redoubt of Miserable Self-Deceived Non-Self Nihilists
Americas' Spiritually Dead, Deep State and Ruling Class Nihilists Walking Dead Parasitic Idolaters
Doctrines of Demons and the Modern Pagan and Pantheist Antithesis The West's Greatest Threat
Gnosis: The Main Expression of Paganized Christianity in the New Age Inner Knowing, Self-Salvation
Our Age of Malicious Perversion How Truth, Meaning, and Reality Have Been Perverted
The Serpent's Gnostic Luciferian Elite Oligarchy and Global Powers Demonic Darkness Over the West and America
The Creation Model Versus Modern Pagan Models
2 Corinthians 10:5
What Kind of God Do You Believe In?
2 Cor. 10:5 Destroying 'scientific' arguments for false Gods
Evil Spirits, Death of God, Satanic Inversion Pagan America's Reality of Madness, Demonic Bondage, and Non-Self
Judgment and Wrath The Biblical Explanation for Madness and Evil
The Worldview of Evil Spirits Revolution, Evolution, Materialism, Nihilism, New World Order, and More
Gnosis The Main Expression of Modern Paganized Christianity
America's Transformation Into A Mystical Pantheist God-State What the Death of God Has Wrought
Message to All Wearied Truthtellers: Let Isaiah Be Your Inspiration the Remnant
The Triune God, Supernatural Heaven, Souls, Hell, and Demons Do They Exist?
Teachings of Demons The Aeon of Horus, Reign of God-Men, and End of the Christian God
Revelation 2:7" ...the closing of a steel door – a solemn, cataclysmic slamming of a door."
Systemic Nihilism: End of the Human Race Eternal Damnation of Human Souls
Infernal Apocalyptic Atmosphere Over America Disintegration into nothing
Global and Ruling Class Criminal Elitists Their Ring of Power and Pact with the Spirit of Death and Hell
Blessed is the Man Who Does Not Listen to Falling Stars Who Follow After Damnable Heresies
Darwinism: An Abomination Aborting and Rotting the Church. The falling away and apostasy from the one true and personal Holy Triune Creator God has not ended
The Evil One and the Impenitent Who Receive His Mark“. And the LORD God formed man (and) breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” Genesis 2:7
The Fall of Mankind, the Religion of Evolution, and the Antichrist. "Pride goes before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall." Proverbs 16:18
Why Secular Liberals Actively Promote Evil. Mentally Retarded Liberals
Cultural Marxism. The Many Hidden Faces of Living Active Communism
The Devil, the Big Bang, Evolution, Extraterrestrials and the Genesis Problem
The Ascension To Power Of Misogyny. Hatred of Women
Gnostic Chiliastic Evolution: Satan's Alternative Plan of Salvation. The Great Reset
Why Proclaiming Jesus Christ the Word Became Flesh is Offensive. The Technocratic Utopian World Order
The Divine Androgyne, Pandemonium, and the Battle for Our Souls. Satan's Rising New World Order
America's Modern Pagan Oligarchy, Aztec Gods, and Human Sacrifice. Isaiah 57 Revisited
The Peace Symbol: Occult Sign Meaning Death Against Christians. Hatred of Jesus Christ and Christianity
Americas’ Spiritually Desolate, Parasitic, Ruling Class Nihilists. Satan and Powers and Principalities
Global Oligarchy, Forces of Darkness, and the Spirit of Antichrist. Forces Darkness Within Church and State
Darwinism: Idol of mind symbolizing hatred of Triune Creator God. And Logical End of America
Is the World a Computer Simulation in the Minds of Robotic Overlords? Magic Science, Transhumanists, Gnostic Physicists.
Your soul: Cost of admission to the Progressive Pagan City of Man. New Egypt, Babylon, Sodom and Gomorrah
Iron Curtain Over American Minds Progressive Marxisms’ Ideological Utopia
Satan’s New World Order Blueprint and Key Strategy. Christian Capitulation To the Serpent's Consensus Process
Chaos, Breakdown, Demoralization, Destruction: America's New Normal. How it came about and where we are going.
Demonic Darkness: America's Invisible Wave of Evil. Staring into the abyss
Cain, Marxism, Leftism and America's ruling class of 'superior' humans. The dragon they have in common
Modernist Christians in a Man-Centered Universe. Scientific Neutrality and Biblical Deconstruction
The Connection Between Baphomet and Why Researchers Are Creating Interspecies Embryos. 2 Corinthians 10:5
Isaiah 57 revisited: America's progressive pagan elites. Staring into the Abyss
Evolutionary Theism Implies That Christ is Wrong About Creation. "For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?" John 5:46-47
Utopianism. Progressive Utopian Cultural Marxism Poisoning Minds, Churches, Schools, Politics
Acts 17:18-19-modern pagan and pantheist antithesis of the Word of God Ecclesiates 1:9 "What has been is what will be.."
Trotsky's Permanent Revolution From Hell In America. The Soviet System in America
Why Transgenderism Is Being Forced Upon America and Our Children. The Divine Androgyne
The Evil Eye Of Envy: Why Being ‘White’ Is Offensive To Some People. No Vice Worse Than Envy
Absolute Nothingness and Non-Self: The Reigning Worldview of Global Power Elites and Western Ruling Classes
What is Evil? Man-made alternative realities
Trump is Destroying Reagan's Legacy By Cliff Kincaid
Trump is a Marked Man By Cliff Kincaid
Terrorist Attack in Baltimore By Cliff Kincaid
Moscow Terror Attack is Another KGB Operation to Fool the West
Obama’s New Nazi-Communist Alliance
On the "Days Of Rage" Planned For The 2024 Marxocrat Party Convention Some of you just couldn't believe that the formerly Democrat
(Confederate) Party had already gone totally Communist before the 1968
Party Convention
Making Russia Great Again By Cliff Cinkaid
De-Nazification and De-Communization in Russia The The mutual non-aggression Hitler-Stalin Pact, which started World War II, has been carefully “forgotten”
Climate Emergency To Produce a New World Order By Cliff Kincaid
The Next Phase of Obama’s “Permanent Revolution” By Cliff Kincaid
Evil in the White House In This War, The Enemy Is In The Ranks, Standing Right Next To You
Satanism, Communism: What's The Difference? Look To The Roots Of Communism
Fox Is the Leading "Trans" Channel There are some rather peculiar goings-on at the Fox News Channel.
Trump and His Communist Enemies The Demonized Joe McCarthy Turned Out To Be Accurate In Everything He Claimed: Fox News Is Wrong About Him And About Much More
The Five Stooges on Capitol Hill They Think We Need Even More Doped No-Hopers In The American Intelligence Community
The Biden Doctrine of Demoralization and Defeat By Cliff Kincaid
A Republican Church Committee? Do Pro-American Republicans Even Know Who Frank Church Really Was?
A Top to Bottom Housecleaning of America When we clean our house, my wife has a slogan, “Top to bottom,” meaning you have to target the whole house. The same advice applies to nations.
China's Mass Murder Experiment Phase Two
Bury The Dead And Move On Fuggedaboutit!
9/11 Truth This is the real 9/11 Truth: Our “intelligence” agencies are infiltrated.
Moving Toward Gorbachev’s “World of Communism” It's called the Monster Plot.
The Errors of Russia, the Dupes of Putin, and Another Holocaust Can The Increasingly Faithless Free World Be Saved From Russia?
World War Quietly Conquering A Distracted and Blithely Unaware World. Could it actually be Satan's world war on despised humanity?
Stand With Ukraine Against Russia and China By Cliff Kincaid
Tucker Carlson Carlson Gets His Comeuppance. Tucker's View: It is not moral for us to intervene in support of any nation's (Ukraine's) democratic self-determination and against Soviet military expansion.
The Need for Secure Borders. Have we so easily forgotten what borders are for? Have we forgotten that evil exists in the world? Have we forgotten how to keep apart from this evil?
Can Ukraine Survive Putin and Biden? Can America? Can the Free World? Can Faith in God?
The Soviet Union: Back From The Dead The Return of the Evil Empire
Could an American Surrender be in the offing with Biden at the wheel? Is this not the perfect time for Communism to strike, with Commies now governing America, China and Russia? What would Biden do?
Abortion and Communism. If you ever wondered where all the popular abortion-contraception-sexuality-perversion nuttiness came from, look to Marx's Communist Manifesto.
The Secret Life of Martin Luther King, Jr. A life almost totally at odds with his reputation as a minister of the Gospel.
"We belong to the Church militant; and She is militant because on earth the powers of darkness are ever restless to encompass Her destruction. Not only in the far-off centuries of the early Church, but down through the ages and in this our day, the enemies of God and Christian civilization make bold to attack the Creator's supreme dominion and sacrosanct human rights." --Pope Pius XII
"It is not lawful to take the things of others to give to the poor. It is a sin worthy of punishment, not an act deserving a reward, to give away what belongs to others." --St. Francis of Assisi
Truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.—Winston Churchill
The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.—Ayn Rand
If you can't find the page you're looking for, try the
SITE MAP.