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There is No Hell, because Pope Francis said so.  Right?

"No one can be condemned for ever, because that is not the logic of  the Gospel!" --Pope Francis

Vic Biorseth, Sunday, May 15, 2016
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Someone help me out here. 

We all know that virtually every time Pope Francis says or writes something, all kinds of "experts" have to fall all over themselves with explanations and interpretations and contextualizations.  This is because he is seldom clear and concise, and in my estimation, seldom in accordance with all that has gone before.  Vagaries of language aside, many are troubled with all the recent emphasis on "reaching out to" and "accommodating" and "walking with" active practitioners of mortal sin. 

And, we are forced to admit, he has taught nothing officially binding that is erroneous on faith and morals.  That is not to say that none of it has been erroneous. 

But ... he's the Pope. 

Why should anyone need to carefully explain anything he says? 

If anyone on earth should not be vague, or clearly wrong, it is the Pope. 

Here's what's troubling me now:

"No one can be condemned for ever, because that is not the logic of the Gospel!" 

From the POST-SYNODAL APOSTOLIC EXHORTATION AMORIS LÆTITIA, Paragraph 297.

Which, of course, flies in the face of the Gospel. 

[41] Then he will say to those at his left hand, `Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels;--Matt 25:41

[46] And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."--Mat 25:46

So you see my quandary. 

Please, someone, help me out here. 

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Date:  Sun May 15 19:38:37 2016
From:  Bernard
Email:   b.ames@sbcglobal.net
Location:  San Carlos, CA.  USA
Comment: 

Vic, our beloved Pope is demonstrating his liberal mentality wherein their bottom line is appeasement and denial of reality. Additionally they do not wish harm to anyone even when there is behavior that is repugnant and or immoral. Additionally they do not advocate for a moral life that follows the Commandments. Rather they want the word of God out of everything to do with law and government as well as removal of the commandments from courtrooms.

Therefore punishment for any violations of God's. Law is unnecessary and likely will not happen from Francis' point of view consistent with his liberal supporters.

So peace be with as you go on with probing articles.

Date:  Mon May 16 2016
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment:  

Bernard:

That's the problem; denial of reality is supposed to be a problem outside the Church, not inside.  Ultimate reality is precisely what Catholicism is all about. 

It is Atheist Lunacy that denies reality, not Catholicism.  We (or at least I) have always thought of the Anti-Christ as being someone from the political realm, not the religious.  In past history, people have thought that Stalin, or Hitler, or Mao might have been The, if not just One Of, the Anti-Christ(s). 

But maybe that's not the case.  In Blind Guides we talked about a possible Final Apostacy that may precede the Second Coming.  This was all new to me, and a shocking idea, if correct.  The Scriptural "Rebellion" that is to come will not necessarily be a political war, as was World War II, which many associated with the "Rebellion".  It will be an Apostasy. 

Apostasy can only happen inside the Church.  An apostate must be a Catholic before he can commit the sin of apostasy.  The "Rebellion" will be against Jesus Christ Himself, and His Gospel.  It will come from within the Church, if this interpretation of 2 Thes 2 is correct.  

Knowing that Culture = Religion + Politics, and seeing the systematic destruction of world culture on the political side of the street, I have been concentrating on politics, perhaps too much, through Breaking The Club and all the associated "Breaking" pages, because I thought that was where the core of the cultural problem was. 

But maybe the problem is really in religion.  In America, through the principle of Representative Government, Religion is supposed to drive Politics.  A religious, i.e., highly moral, citizenry would elect highly moral representatives who would legislate highly moral law. 

But the opposite it true; politics is driving religion, and politics is now almost totally secularized and religiously-cleansed.  Amoral, at the very least; flat out immoral at worst. 

The Church let that happen.  So did all the Protestant Churches.  Morality, taught and handed on by our religion, was supposed to instill and strengthen our morality, so that our morality would be represented in government and in law. 

Look around.  That ain't happening. 

Regards,

Vic


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