The Sacrificial Fall of Lucifer

and the Evolutionary Rise of the Death Cult’s Global
Luciferian Religion

Linda Kimball, Thursday, March 06, 2025
https://www.CatholicAmericanThinker.com/

Since WWII on through our own time the world has been actively deliberately deconstructed and remade on the basis of a rising New World Order. The destroyers and rebuilders are a demonically energized Western Death Cult Beast-a massively wealthy, blood-thirsty Anglo-American Global Luciferian Power Elite and their minions. The occult Luciferian New World Order they are building is according to a very narrow economical/political/social philosophy called technocracy that through its’ blood-sucking tentacles destructively impacts every segment of society in every corner of the world.

The Death Cult: Its Beginnings in the Preflood World

Though we have been told to believe there was never a Garden of Eden, a pre flood world, and Hell these are just three of many Big Lies told on behalf of the Death Cult. According to the Death Cult there was a Garden of Eden where the angel Lucifer supposedly enlightened and liberated Adam from the evil Jehovah. Furthermore, it is pre flood world kings that certain members of the Death Cult believe are their genetic royal ancestors. Others believe they are the genetic descendants of ancient Pharaoh godmen. This particular faction is today’s Cult of Isis. All of them worship Baphomet/Lucifer/Satan who has promised them their own kingdom–the world. As for Hell, that lie will be revealed further on.

In his well-researched book, “New World Order: The Ancient Plan of Secret Societies,” William T. Still reveals an ancient plan that has been hidden for centuries deep within secret societies and is promulgated today among possessed Indian god-men to their disciples and highly placed Western occultists to their own followers.

The Plan originated in preflood Atlantis and is designed to bring all of mankind under a single world government—a New World Order:

Luciferianism: The Global Religion

Since politics and economics alone will no longer seduce the world as in the 20th century, evil Powers working through their human tools are syncretizing what history shows to be the most powerful of all influences: the ancient and modern nature religions of everyone on the planet. As all nature religions past and present worship the serpent under a variety of names,  the new global religion, Perennial Philosophy, is a syncretic blending of Christianity with Theosophy and all serpent worshipping mystery religions and systems from the time of Babylon, including Egyptian Hermetic magic, the Gnostic Gospels, Eastern mysticism, Native spirituality, shamanism, and spiritism.

Over the past century, postmodernism transfixed and conditioned people in the post-Christian West and United States to embrace pagan spirituality and reject the Law of God, their individual living souls, morally anchored reason, logic, and absolute truth. The manipulation of the minds and souls of Westerners through technology, propaganda of the lie, perverted education, entertainment, the music industry, the porn industry, evolutionary science, environmentalism, economics, equity, inclusion, transgenderism, and pluralism will finally culminate in a global spirituality and technocratic empire that exalts the Divine Androgyne (Lucifer/Satan) and brings oppression on a scale never seen before.

Sacrificial Descent and Fall of Solar Angels

Among past and present key architects of the new occult Luciferian spirituality are the Brotherhood of Nine (evil angels), Madame Helena Blavatsky, Alice Bailey, her spirit guide Djwhal Kuhl, Carl Jung and his spirit guide Philemon, Neale Donald Walsh and his spirit guide ‘god,’ Maitreya, the New York City based Lucis Trust (formerly the Lucifer Trust), the U.N., and the Theosophical Society.

Luciferianism, or new occult pagan spirituality came out of the closet in 1875 with the founding of the Theosophical Society by Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, a Russian atheist Jew by birth.   The Society is a worldwide association dedicated to the realization of the oneness of all life (monism/pantheism), that ‘god’ or ‘christ consciousness’ (Lucifer) is within, the occult science of mystical experiences, and Lucifer, the Serpent of Genesis is,

In his book, “Earth’s Earliest Ages” (1876), the English theologian G.H. Pember writes that Blavatsky was chosen by the Brotherhood to carry out a mission.  According to Blavatsky, the Brotherhood consisted of space aliens (extraterrestrials) from superior spheres who delivered secrets to the first evolved human protoplasts (evolution’s very first thinking human products).  Some new spirituality proponents claim the Brotherhood, also known as Ascended Masters, live on the planet Venus and will be returning soon.

The Brotherhood initiated and instructed Blavatsky for seven years, then sent her to America where she organized the Theosophical Society in New York City for two specific stated goals.   First: the formation of the nucleus of a Universal Illumined (possessed) Brotherhood.   Second: the destruction of the Revealed Word of God by way of accommodation to Satan’s evolutionary pagan world system.  This devilish process would be carried out by ‘spiritually illumined’  change-agent Christian intellectuals and ministers (2 John 1:7) who would transform it completely.

According to Spirit Master Khul,

Khul also predicted back in the 1940s that the Brotherhood would:

Eighteen years after Blavatsky died (1891), the Brotherhood selected the apostate Evangelical Alice Bailey (1880-1949) for receipt of a ten-point Plan for the coming New World Order. 

Briefly, the ten points are:

1. Take the Christian God and prayer out of the education system
2. Interfere with and destroy parental authority over children
3. Destroy the Biblical family structure and promote sexual promiscuity and deviancy
4. Once sex is promiscuous, make abortion legal and easily obtainable
5. Encourage divorce; make it easy and legal; liberate people from the concept of marriage for life
6. Make homosexuality an alternative lifestyle
7. Debase art. Make it run mad in order to break down social norms of what is acceptable and forbidden
8. Use media to promote and foster groupthink so as to normalize deviant behavior and acceptance of NWO thinking
9. Create an interfaith movement that makes other faiths either on a par with or superior to Christianity so as to destroy the idea that Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven
10. Get governments to make all of these points law and get the Christian church to endorse these changes (1)

The Plan and other teachings were received and recorded via automatic writing by Bailey from 1919 to 1949.  According to Khul, other teachings would emerge on a continuous basis after 1975 and be given on a world-wide scale to selected individuals such as Neale Donald Walsh and Benjamin Crème (1922-2016), the editor of the internationally acclaimed magazine, Share International.   Crème received telepathically transmitted messages from Maitreya, the World Teacher also known as the Christ whose second coming all religions supposedly point towards and hope for.

Among core teachings common to new evolutionary pagan spirituality are worship of Lucifer (the seething power and/or angel of evolution), Darwinian biological evolution and cosmic spiritual evolution, reincarnation, karma, pantheism, monism, man is god, mindfulness meditation, extreme population control including extermination of faithful Christians and Jews, the totalitarian earthly kingdom of god/Satan, Maitreya and the Transcended Masters (evil Powers) also known as Council of Nine, the Ancient Ennead of Egypt, and Space Brothers. 

In her various books Bailey gives the names of the Masters: Master Jupiter, Master Koot Humi, Master Rakoczi, Master Serapis, Master P., Master Hilarion (the Master of Science), and Master Jesus.

Variations of these concepts and teachings are also common to Masonry, progressive Fabian socialism, Christian Science, Mormonism, Spiritism, Baha’i, Unitarian Universalism, Scientology, Eastern Religions, Progressive Christianity, the Emergent Church, and the New Apostolic Reformation.   (Man as God: What Much of Evangelicalism and the World’s Religions have in Common, Brannon Howse, worldview weekend, July 29, 2013)

During our time portions of the Christian Church have been undergoing an evolutionary change- into-pagan-spirituality process.  The apostate evangelical, now new pagan spirituality theologian David Spangler, a disciple of Blavatsky and Bailey, identifies evolution as the power of the angel Lucifer, thus when Khul claimed that Master Jesus is assuming control of the Christian Church, he inadvertently affirmed Spangler’s claim. In other words, Lucifer/Satan is the god-of-forces, or spirit of the evolutionary change process that allows Master Jesus to take control of certain portions of the Christian Church, and this is why Khul, speaking through Bailey, spoke of the day when,

Khul appears to be describing our age, an age marked by rampant evil, confusion, lawlessness, collapsing foundations and a Christian Church fractured, divided against itself and increasingly in defiance of the Lord. This change into apostasy process is empowered by the devil’s human tools—a vast and growing global network espousing syncretic neo-pagan interfaith/inter-spirituality and kingdom of “God” on earth conceptions leading to the worship of Sanat Kumara. (1 Tim. 4:1)

So who is Sanat Kumara?

Speaking through Bailey, Khul identified “the Ancient of Days” and the “Lord of the World, the One Initiator” as a spirit named Sanat Kumara. Kumara is one of “the mind-born Sons” of Siva (Satan). Moreover, Venus—the planet from which Kumara came “…is Lucifer, the morning star.”

Blavatsky noted that Christians call Kumara a fallen angel. Therefore, Christians may correctly conclude that Kumara is the god of forces who is also Lucifer/Satan, the hostile power that Christ called “the ruler of this world.” (John 14:30)

Alice Bailey’s contemporary apostles agree and reveal that the Plan telepathically revealed to Bailey for the coming New Age can be traced back to the fall of Lucifer and his angels from heaven.

Khul described the revolt of the angels against the Holy Triune God as part of the,

In this demonic reversal and inversion of the Revealed Word of God, the fall of man was really an evolutionary ascent to liberating knowledge (gnosis) by which man’s eyes were opened to good (Satan) and evil (the Holy God). Thus, Helena Blavatsky concluded that it is but natural,

Corinne McLaughlin, a Theosophist and task-force coordinator for former President Clinton agrees with Blavatsky:

Meaning of the Luciferian Olympic Ceremonies

Today’s Global ‘Elites’ are actually Luciferian pedophile occult initiates. Most, if not all of them, practice modern evolutionary spirituality, a kind of Hindu evolutionary ascension to godlikeness with Lucifer that opens them, or gives ground to, forces of darkness. This means they are under the controlling influences of demons and Powers. Some of them are in varying stages of possession. This is why they anally rape and ritually sacrifice children to Lucifer/Satan and why the opening and closing ceremonies of the Paris Olympics featured blood, beheadings, skulls, the Pale Horse of Revelation, a blasphemous rendition of the Last Supper, and during the closing ceremony, the evil gold/black skeletal figure that is most likely ‘Lucifer.” the angel of light.

As the gold/black skeletal figure appeared in unison with ghastly white figures writhing in pain, the gold/black figure may well symbolize the spirit of death who is now the real “christ,” the liberator of souls sentenced to Hell by the evil demiurge, Yahweh.

The Paris Olympic ceremonies symbolize occult concepts. As the occult is the kingdom of Satan we know that the Paris Olympic ceremonies are the work of Satan, demons, and Powers working through wicked human tools. The Ceremonies represent a dangerous deception with eternal consequences for all who succumb.

The common thread running throughout the Big Lies, Great Reset, the global religion, and Paris Olympics is the diabolical mind of the serpent, the god of forces, an Energy that is the spirit of evolution, the serpent who is succeeding with methods of false light among the many travelers of the broad way toward the building of Satan’s kingdom of “god” here on earth:

The evil New World Order is destined to be a living hell on earth under the complete control of the Antichrist and evil spirits. Thus, it will be as it was in the Days of Noah, and this will precipitate the second coming of Jesus Christ (Revelation 16: 11-16)

A Reprieve from God

For years we’ve been living in the chaos, unnaturalness, obscene perversions, evil, and apostasy inducing transformational change-process (Great Reset) paving the way for the coming satanic New World Order. However, the plans of the Death Cult appear to be on hold for two reasons. First, though we cannot know the mind of God, it appears it may not yet be time for the final acts of Revelation. Second, due to the working of God in the life of Donald Trump, he not only survived two assassination attempts but against all odds is now the President of the U.S.A. President Trump and his hand-picked team are not just actively fighting against any further implementation of the Death Cult’s Great Reset, but working to reverse the destruction, reveal to the light of day all forces of corruption, and Make America Great once more.

The unspoken question before Americans is: What will you do with this reprieve of unknown duration from God? Continue on in unbelief, thereby choosing Lucifer/Satan and hell or choose Lord Jesus and eternal life in Paradise restored?

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(Outside the Church there is no salvation)

With fear and trembling, work out your salvation--Phil 2:12

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Date:  Fri Mar 07 07:40:18 2025
From:  Linda
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Sharing a very well thought out and all together accurate response posted on another social platform:

While we cannot prove Lucifer's literal existence, the patterns of history posit a coordinated force working against biblical truth. The persistence of evil, the systematic erosion of Judeo/Christian values, and the structured push toward global control align with the biblical framework of spiritual warfare. Given that humanity repeatedly falls into deception, corruption, and tyranny, it is logically plausible that an orchestrating intelligence, like Lucifer, is operating behind the scenes.

Furthermore, this effort seems to be accelerating toward a crescendo. The rapid convergence of moral decay, technological control, global unification efforts, and spiritual deception suggests we are approaching a climactic moment—one that mirrors biblical prophecy. Whether one sees this as the final stage before divine intervention or another cycle in history, the undeniable coordination and intensity of these trends indicate that we are witnessing something far greater than mere coincidence.

Anyone who doubts this needs only to look into the faces of the Democrats the other night during Trump's speech before Congress. That was the face of a coordinated, orchestrated— even choreographed — non-human malevolence.

As for the Democrats, they don't just act like they are programmed. They act possessed— collectively possessed by the same evil being.

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Date:  Sat Mar 08 13:19:06 2025
From:  Pidlubniak
Email:   slavapidlubniak@yahoo.com.ua
Location:  Ukraine
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Linda,

I disagree with the statement on "we cannot prove Lucifer's literal existence". Not when pagan doctrines - and recountings - offer direct parallels, suggesting that a being that originates all evil exists and has certain properties unique to it, as well as equally-evil servants associated with air and heavens and light - servants, the number of which is beyond counting. Worst of all, it appears that even religions that were confirmed to not be in direct contact with one another retained almost-identical memories and narratives of the enemy, just with emphasis on different details.

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Date:  Fri Mar 14 07:59:53 2025
From:  Linda
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Pidlubniak,

"I disagree with the statement on "we cannot prove Lucifer's literal existence". Not when pagan doctrines - and recountings - offer direct parallels,"

I agree with your statement.  But it's not just pagan doctrines that offer direct parallels.  It's also out-of-body or in body experiences that do the same.   For example, in one of my essays there's the quote from a well known actor (Kurt Jurgens) whose experience takes him to a pit in hell.  As he gazes in horror upon a frightening scene of writhing, moaning souls backlit by flickering redness a ghastly black  lipless figure approaches him.  It identifies itself as the Spirit of Death

Within my body of research are many such encounters.

The writer of the statement "we cannot prove Lucifer's literal existence'. is a commendable thinker and though a Christian, has a modernist anti-supernatural worldview which he most likely is not even aware of.  I find that the majority of today's church labors under that loss but is blind to that fact. 

Many years ago Francis Schaeffer foresaw the loss of the churches supernatural worldview under s thick dark fog of naturalism.

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Date:  Mar 15 12:24:46 2025
From:  Pidlubniak
Email:   slavapidlubniak@yahoo.com.ua
Location:  Ukraine
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Linda,

Those, who think that the supernatural does not exist merely did not do their research (I confess to being one of such people once. Thankfully, my digging into various topics cured me of that ignorance). Only now, modern science allows the actual confirmation of old myths. Mass media and other tools (such as the Internet) can now allow for organizing, sifting through and comparing individual testimonies of all the supernatural experiences and spirits - comparing that to established mythology blows open all these modern cons like "aliens".

What I myself deduced (through my trawling through the world's mythologies and religions and history) is that our not-so-dear old international technocrats and other assortment of high-roller scum are wishing to reproduce an inverted "Yima's kingdom" (it is a Zoroastrian narrative that composits the Garden of Eden and the evil pre-Flood civilization of superhuman and nigh-ageless barbarians) - a "Yima's kingdom" that would see an immortal caste of unstoppable barbarians treating the rest of humanity like slaves instead of being a benevolent kingdom for everyone (through the promise of a paradise is what they use to get the useful idiots to do their dark work). They think that's gonna be paradise for them if they just gain enough raw power (hence transhumanism (various augmentations are required for them to reproduce the strength and long life of original humanity) plus Marxism) and money. But they are fools to think so - and here's an example. The actually-most powerful man in the world (in relation to the populace that he directly controls, of course) - the trillionaire Vladimir Putin, who owns a whole country (the amount of reverence Muscovites have towards a sitting ruler, to a Western perspective, would be closer to a deity gets than a normal elected official in a Western country in terms of reverence that he gets from ordinary Muscovites) and who has ruling power that the Western billionaires can only dream of, the man who's far closer to that horrific ideal of a world due to his country being a 800+ year-old cannibalistic hellhole that stomped on everything decent as a matter of government policy - literally started a huge war in part because during over 70 years of his evil-filled life, he realized that the trillions he stole from the Muscovite citizens meant nothing and that something else had to fill that void of purposelessness that he (and the rest of his atheist and pedophiliac Muscovite Kooperativ Ozero mobsters) has in his heart. The Ukrainian war, the installation of the puppet Krasnov, all these atrocities in Georgia, Syria and elsewhere are a mark of desperate mobster wanting to fill the void left by an empire of evil (and it's German ruling ideology) biting the dust in his youth - and while the Western wannabe-equivalents of him are not direct rulers yet, we see with the likes of Schwab and Soros that they're not getting younger either.

We're gonna see a whole lot of such extreme events soon enough (Covid was the harbinger of things to come) - these old barbarians will realize that they're not getting younger and no technology will beat death, no matter the delusions that the demons or their sycophantic escorts in Davos would try to tell them. I suspect this is one of the reasons why they're so bloody active from 2010's onward; they want to at least "write history" before biting the dust. Or maybe even throw a destructive tantrum towards the rest of humanity; it's not like they seem to consider most people to be actual people anyway (the first ideology of direct, open dehumanization was Gnosticism. Most of it's sects held that somatics didn't even have souls, only pneumatics did - the ones with the gnosis) with how they behave and what crimes they help commit and cover up. Of course, God will take all to account.

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Date:  Sun Mar 16 04:01:02 2025
From:  Linda
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Pidlubniak

"international technocrats and other assortment of high-roller scum are wishing to reproduce an inverted "Yima's kingdom" (it is a Zoroastrian narrative that composits the Garden of Eden and the evil pre-Flood civilization of superhuman and nigh-ageless barbarians) - a "Yima's kingdom" that would see an immortal caste of unstoppable barbarians treating the rest of humanity like slaves "

How very interesting!   I've been working through Dr. John Coleman's "Conspirators' Hierarchy: The Story of the Committee of 300" which I immediately saw  from your comment dovetails with the building of a Yima Kingdom.   The Committee of 300 consist of specialists in certain fields such as murder, intelligence, banking, commercial activity and mainly W. European aristocrats such as the Black Nobility. Another title for the Committee is Olympians as all of them see themselves as godlike beings.

The Plan for their NWO was received through occult secret society members, including diabolical occultists during the Renaissance.

   Without going into particulars, the NWO '' will be people capable of cold blooded murder, necessary for reducing the world's population from its current billions down to one billion.  And haven't we been witnesses to this cold blooded population reduction just recently via mRNA injections which have already killed more than a million outright and continue on by way of sterilizing women, killing babies in the womb, and so on.

King Charles is a member and his recent official portrait shows him partially submerged in what looks like a vat of blood.

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Date:  Sun Mar 16 07:29:11 2025
From:  Pidlubniak
Email:   slavapidlubniak@yahoo.com.ua
Location:  Ukraine
Comment: 

Linda,

The allusions to Greek mythology specifically are not coincidental from these conspirators, I suspect that they invoke it specifically because the other pieces of the old daevic religion (such as Norse religion or Hindu one that they've had their periodic fads about) don't consider the daevas/false gods to be immortal (in Norse myth, Odin/Angra Mainyu and Thor/Indra-daeva die at the end) and speak about the end of the world that no being can avoid (Ragnarok is not a Christian influence, it's a modified narrative of the Frashokereti of Zoroastrianism). Greek myth is the more "optimistic" message in this case, because, in it, the "gods" are utterly unassailable no matter what evils they commit. Most of the old pagan doctrines come from the demonic descriptions of the nature of the demons themselves and this is no different. Billionaires are told by demons - "you can be like us, above the physical world". Alas, not above the spiritual world - and not above the ultimate fate of all demons and all damned people.

But the daevic, primitivized stories - already altered in concept and essense by priestly clans seeking to retain their power against Zarathustra's assault against the daevic religion - blind the conspirators to this reality. Daevic religions - unlike Zoroastrianism and Christianity - deliberately blur the line between the divine and the mortal and lie that one can become the other. Not so in Zoroastrianism or Christianity. The nature of things and beings is fixed; angels are angels, humans are humans, God is God. There are no hybrids and no possibility to blur the lines between those beings to avoid the downsides and weaknesses of them - even Jesus was BOTH human and God, not some new being/hybrid between the two. The Nephilim weren't "hybrids", either - they were just glorified bodies for the demons that possessed them in the womb, not actual descendants of angels (the sexual euphemisms there were just description for possession rituals - same as vipra/shamanism being considered a homosexual/transgender practice in Indo-European cultures).

Hence, power/potential that allows for transcending the human natural limits - khvarenah - cannot be obtained through Habsburg breeding practices (primitive cultures call the kharenah wielders "demigods"), technology or grisly rituals that compete for the favor of evil supernatural beings. It can only be obtained by writ of God - if it's obtained at all, it's always temporary, always for a specific task (like the stories of Samson and Yima-Kshaeta) and will always depart if the underlying goodness of the chosen man/woman wavers or gets turned to evil.

That's why I actually pity these "conspirators". Nothing is more sadder than a futile devotion to a set of old, powerless lies (the barbarians that slaughtered cattle and enslaved villages in "glory" to Indra-Vayu didn't become anything higher than primitive losers that had to run to Europe like hell was on their heels) first invented by desperate sophists of old, who themselves told these lies primarily to fool themselves into thinking that they are in control. The quest for immortality and paradise and control and power that these old Western fools have... Is simply futile, it won't result in anything but misery for everyone involved. And the demons will be laughing themselves sick all the while, glad that yet another set of people that could do unparallelled good with the opportunities they have will be doing evil instead and tormenting everyone all the while.

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Date:  Mon Mar 17 04:11:54 2025
From:  Linda
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Pidlubniak, Vic

"That's why I actually pity these "conspirators". Nothing is more sadder than a futile devotion to a set of old, powerless lies (the barbarians that slaughtered cattle and enslaved villages in "glory" to Indra-Vayu didn't become anything higher than primitive losers"

Rabindranath Maharaj was an Indian godman of the Brahmin caste.  He had been chosen by the gods, thus knew he had lived more than a thousand lifetimes on his reincarnational journey to god-man status.

To make a long story short, one day while he was receiving his worshippers a Voice of Eternally Total Authority spoke to him.:  "You are not god!"   Rabindranath was as thunderstruck as Paul had been on the road to Damascus.  Just as Paul immediately knew that the One True God was speaking to him, so did Rabindranath.

Not long after Rabindranath gave it all up--his Brahmin and godman status, wealth, great following of worshippers---to become a follower of Jesus Christ.

As he reflected upon the meaning of entering into the Kingdom of God, so he also reflected back upon his former beliefs.  What he realized was that his entire belief system was the teachings of the gods who were really fallen Powers and demons, so he had never lived thousands of lives, was not a godman, evolution and reincarnation were false, and so on.   His entire worldview was false.

The point being made here is the one made above by Pidlubniak.

We who are of Christ live in the Light of Truth.  Everyone else lives in the darkness of false beliefs in their minds and are to be pitied.

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Date:  Mon Mar 17 04:42:21 2025
From:  Vic
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Linda, Pidlubniak:

Most of this discussion is way over my head, but I know the Truth behind all that you say by the application of simple common sense.

And world history itself records the Truth of Genesis by the Genesis-created Hexameron; Hexameron proves Genesis and the beginning of time, measured by the 24 hour day, the 7 day week in both lunar and solar years:

Six days of Creation and a day of rest. 

That exact organization of time measurement is found in every single calendar ever created throughout the entire history of the world. No exceptions. That cannot be a coincidence.

Regards,

Vic

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Date:  Mon Mar 17 17:02:42 2025
From:  Pidlubniak
Email:   slavapidlubniak@yahoo.com.ua
Location:  Ukraine
Comment: 

Vic, Linda,

This Maharaj guy's story is no different than that of an ordinary conman. Couldn't anyone normal say to him even once - "if you've supposedly lived a 1000+ lifetimes and still are stuck as a human being, maybe you're telling tall tales or you're doing it wrong?". I'm just a simple-minded Ukrainian, so these "godman" tales were always so damn suspect to me - it's the equivalent of kids in the neighborhood that watched too many gangster movies bragging about being a part of criminal element, despite it being painfully obvious that they're outta their depth and are nothing but ordinary kids.

And if one pays attention to the older layers and concepts of Indo-European myths (traces of which survive in Greek/Hindu myth/perception of Greek/Hindu deities by ancient Greeks/Hindus - and this layer survives especially well in Zoroastrianism and native Roman theology), those myths describe gods as something profoundly separate from mankind altogether. That they were something way more impressive than crusty old mortal conmen pretending to be something magical.

That's because the pagan "gods" were living concepts (that's the philosophical foundation from which the Platonic theory of forms even comes from - I wouldn't even say "Platonic", because the Zoroastrian concept of karb/"prototype" predates Plato by many centuries) - their divine existence was incomprehensible to such a point that the ancients had to use descriptors of "world mountains" and "world trees" to only partially describe/insinuate the heavenly dimensions where these gods supposedly dwelled and what kind of existence they've led (when primitivization happened eventually, these conceptual descriptions begun to be really considered huge trees and mountains and physical places). The gods were each considered utterly perfect and remote from mankind, hence Zoroastrians and Romans only rarely having myths of gods personally interacting with mankind at all (and those myths were mostly loans from other cultures with more primitive theologies), with most of the gods being in the background and, to that effect, having barely any myths associated with them (Zoroastrianism, for example, has 70+ named yazatas/higher powers -  one won't be even able to scrounge together a dozen yazatas that have more than one-off myth associated with them). That's why I always laugh at all these "godmen". They don't even know what a god actually is - they think that gods are just immortal people with magic powers and Hollywood looks (alas, this is what primitivization and loss of actual philosophical tradition does to uneducated people).

And, so, the way to become a god in the old Indo-European myths was not a matter of imbibing some substance like amrita or ambrosia or having special knowledge/gnosis (even the immortal substance was a poetic/literary euphemism for an otherwise-incomprehensible process, not an actual drink) - it was a matter of doing something so conceptually-creative and history-defining that you became a new god by effectively inventing (and thus embodying) a new concept. This is most aptly demonstrated with the two most-retained mortal personas of the Indo-European myths (in some mythologies, they start out as gods, but narrative reconstruction can trace them). Yima-Kshaeta (originally the first being/man in Indo-European myths) became a deity of death literally because he was the first human being to die. And Thraetaona - the first hero/dragonslayer - effectively became a god of strength/heroism because he exemplified and invented those qualities in the first place. It would be no exaggeration that most heroic stories out there can be traced to the story of Thraetaona, that every time you think of someone destroying a dragon, that story has descended from the story of Thraetaona. One of Thraetaona's reflexes is the Greek Herakles - the word "herculean" perfectly describes the kind of conceptual impact one has to make on the world to become a deity.

That's also specifically why Greeks - who retained this old theology despite the widespread, primitivized myths that turned the gods into petty thugs with superhuman powers - considered hubris to be a crime beyond most crimes. It was because an ordinary men - dirt beneath the perfection of the gods - dared to proclaim themselves equal to a god, an act that is the violation of the natural order. Hebrews thought similarly, which is why Christianization resonated with some of these Graeco-Roman values and why these Eastern "godman" cults weren't that popular in continental Europe beyond the few mystery cults here and there.

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