Sex and the Masturbation Industry

Vic Biorseth, http://www.CatholicAmericanThinker.com

How, exactly, did a masturbation industry develop?

In Western thought, sex is the means to an end; in secular thought, sex is an end, and the secular man will use any means to get to that end. In the received wisdom of Western civilization, throughout it’s two thousand year history, the primary physical purpose for sex is procreation, and the primary social and spiritual purpose for sex is the foundation of the family. It is therefore reserved for the married state, in which sex has another purpose, that being, bonding of man and wife, the formation of the social “glue” that binds parents more strongly to each other to form the solid foundation of the family unit.

In the received wisdom of secularism, the physical and social purpose for sex is—well, sex. It’s just "natural". As we shall see, again, on another topic, secular naturalists may be seen working feverishly to defeat nature; although sex is seen as purely natural, naturalists see a need to artificially defeat all natural consequences of sex, and to control it. Just like economies, and just like societies, and just like “our” environment; secularists are, by nature, control freaks. They have to have a plan for everything, and the plan is usually of the grandiose, social variety, affecting everybody, affecting every thing.

In pushing artificial contraception, for instance, they push a program promoting acts of mutual masturbation, because that is precisely what sex with contraception is. It is an exercise in mutual masturbation, pure and simple, and the participants turn their partners into mere sexual playgrounds. There is absolutely no difference between a man spilling his seed on the ground and a man using a condom.

But, you say, the experts on the subject, the doctors, the psychologists, including even past Surgeons General of the United States, say that masturbation is good, and wholesome, and a healthy thing to do.

They are, in a word, liars.

In their defense of what used to be indefensible, the names they most frequently quote are Freud, Jung and Kinsey. You can read about all of them in the Freudianism page. You can read about where these sources and very poor or even non-critical thinking have lead the so-called experts in the Homo-Nazism page. The advice these "experts" give you can make you dead.

In America today, we cannot talk about sex without talking about pornography, because pornography has in varying degrees become and integral part of our society. The sole purpose of pornography is to sexually arouse the user of it, the more the better. It is done competitively, in a fierce market. To what end? Masturbation. We all know what pornography is. But our courts do not know, or pretend to not know, the difference between pornography and an Italian masterpiece. The courts are not smart enough, individually or collectively, to differentiate between sleaze and art in the same manner that all of the rest of us do it.

The Multi-Billion Dollar American Masturbation Industry

The same American national government that censors, everywhere, all public Christian education, art and expression (a voluntary prayer in a public school; a manger scene in front of a town hall; a cross in a public park; a picture of our Savior hanging in the local library; the Ten Commandments displayed on a judge’s courtroom wall; a cross as part of the design in a state’s official seal) protects and defends flat out pornography, wherever it may be found, as Constitutionally protected speech and expression. Our government, which may be seen to suppress Constitutionally protected open expressions of Christianity, protects and thereby promotes masturbation.

The result is that the current, exponentially growing Internet boom is largely driven by the almost unquenchable market for erotic stimulation subjects and web-pages and hot-links. You - and anyone - can sit down at a computer with a modem anywhere in the world and join a video “teleconference” in which you watch a woman strip, live, and know that the company providing the “conference” is making hundreds of thousands of dollars a month on this one, protected, “free speech” free market activity. The masturbation industry is huge, and growing.

Take a guess at what web pages are the most popular today. Hint: It’s not the religious WebSites, although it should be. Religious Web Sites, busy as they are, get a minuscule amount of “hits” compared to the “adult entertainment” sites, which are already making billions of dollars in revenues and can’t grow fast enough to keep up with demand. Amazing what official national government protection can do for an industry that ought to be illegal.

The same thing happens with cable networks; “adult entertainment” TV is making billions. Of course, porn video tapes are still available for sale or rent, and porn publishing is still going strong, as always. Masturbators pay a lot of money for this stuff. Telephone companies and companies like America Online are making huge profits from the time people spend on “phone sex” and “cyber-sex” encounters with other phone-pervs and net-pervs, describing in graphic detail what they fantasize about doing to each other.

The images are so fantastic and erotic, and there’s nothing personal, no entanglements, nothing but pure erotica. The masturbator gets into it deeper and deeper, avoiding reality, avoiding all less than perfect images, seeking more and more personal pleasure. On-line peepshows and general porno is drawing other types, too. Pedophiles and prostitutes and homosexuals and child pornographers are opening and operating their own over-active Web Sites, and some very sick people are now surfing and trolling for new victims.

But even “normal” industries and entertainment are riding the economic masturbation wave. Regular TV, meaning TV not previously noted for being erotic, is getting more and more competitively erotic. Talk shows predominantly talk about perversion and erotica. Fashions are ever increasingly sensuous. Popular music videos are continuous fantasies consisting primarily of glossy, glitzy, jiggley, bouncy, and even sleazy soft porn. Feminist magazines that decry the exploitation of women in the girlie magazines display some of the most sensuous and provocative covers in the entire “normal” magazine industry.

Even Sports Illustrated has an annual celebration of masturbation in its provocative swimsuit issue. Stuff that once was known as strictly adult entertainment is now just normal, everyday, general entertainment. Prime-time sit-coms promote and even celebrate such things as illicit sex, purposeful single-woman parenting, homosexual kisses, all sorts of illicit sexual encounters and entanglements, continually cheering each other on to new “firsts,” to push the envelope, to do something, anything, to gain more ground in what is clearly, unmistakably, a popular media war against what it considers to be the backwardness and the absolute horrors associated with monotheistic morality.

You can't get away from it. Dish Network advertises that I can not only block "adult" channels, but I can even get them out of the menu so that flipping through the channels will not even show that they are available. That's a lie; I can't do that through my Dish Network programming. I can block out channels, but I can't make them disappear off the menu altogether. It allows me to block questionable programming, but not questionable advertising for that same questionable programming, and thus does Dish Network do more than it's part for promoting the masturbation industry that it makes so much money from.

Nor can I block out the advertisements for the shows on the blocked channels that are presented on the regular channels. Fox News should be a good channel to watch, right? On that channel, I have seen advertisements for "uncensored wild co-ed parties", "naked model of the year contest", and most of the garbage I have blocked out on other channels. They not only advertise, but present, on the program, an annual erotic lingerie fashion show. In between Fox news segments, we're greeted by commercials of the guy who can't get the stupid grin off his face because he's taken some erectile dysfunction drug and is now showing everybody how he is permanently equipped with a perpetual hard-on. This has become the drug of choice for sexual predators everywhere. Sometimes you'll get to see this commercial every ten minutes or so. Isn't that nice?

And, that's what I get on the BEST channel available. Even Fox news channel supports the masturbation industry. I turn to Fox for less biased reporting, and what they give me is soft porn.

It gets worse. Take a look at the channels your kids like most, like MTV and VH1, and, not only listen to the "lyrics" but watch the videos. Next time you see little 9 and 10 year olds "dancing" with the girl's rear end against the boy's crotch as they simulate intercourse, you need to recognize that they are merely acting out what they see and internalize on TV, every day. Even if they don't really understand what they're doing yet, it won't take them very long to figure it out.

Go to the E (Entertainment) channel for perhaps the worst of it. It seems to be a tabloid-type show, with continuous, back-to-back factoids and blurbs about who's screwing who, who's divorcing who, who's re-marrying who, who's shacking up with who. I've even flipped through once and seen someone sitting on a toilet. And, they always have various show-biz awards programs, which are inevitably, tit contests, pure and simple. Starlets or singers or whatever compete for the most revealing attire possible, while their male counterparts pretend to be not looking and not interested. The men might be wearing tuxedos, but some among them will also be wearing pink running shoes, or a baseball cap on backwards, or whatever, just to emphasize their real disdain for tradition. The time I flipped through and saw Howard Stearn's filthy show was the time that channel got blocked out with the others.

The sole purpose for this "entertainment" is to induce extreme sexual arousal, nothing more and nothing less, and it is an extremely competitive market. We should all be complaining to the cable and satellite providers and the networks that transmit this stuff, and transmit instructions on how to block out and protect children from this "adult" entertainment, because of the insult of calling it adult. If they were honest, they would openly call what they are telling us how to block out, jerk-off entertainment. Calling it adult entertainment is an open insult to all real adults everywhere. Adults don't jerk off, and men don't jerk off. Masturbation is for really immature adolescents and those in an arrested state of adolescence with a serious self control problem. And maybe the intelligentsia.

The very fact that they call it "adult" entertainment reveals that they follow an ethos that is foreign to us, and they are "transmitting" that ethos to us. Who the hell do they think they are? The American ethos that we should be living by is deeply rooted in Western Culture, with its rich Judeo-Christian moral tradition, further modified by the on-going predominantly Protestant American Experiment. What main-line Protestant denominations recommend "adult" entertainment to their congregations? And what, exactly is this foreign ethos, and where did it come from? Let me put a name to it: It is the ethos following the traditions and moral codes of BMDFP¹⁰ and the SLIMC¹ . This all gets transmitted beyond our shores.

This is the image foreigners get of our "culture." How wrong are they when they call us "decadent"? If we are not in truth a decadent people, then, why is it so clear, so obvious and apparent from our TV and our movie industry and our music industry, even our advertisements, that we are, indeed, an absolutely decadent people?

It is abundantly clear to any objective observer that show-biz in general and major media television in particular opposes God. In favor of pushing the envelope, expanding the limits, and increasing the acceptability of the masturbation industry, which they prefer to call adult entertainment.

Is the notion of Romantic Love lost, forever?

What seems to be lost the most, at least visibly, is that thing that used to be called romance. You don't even see it on TV anymore. Old guys like me can remember it as prevailing; I suspect that a lot of younger guys don't even know what it is.

Romantic love involves the truest form of love, which does not involve sex. It involves words and feelings and non-sexual touching, and other expressions of love that do not lead to the bedroom. Courtship used to involve dressing nice, flowers, candy, holding hands, walks, going places together, holding hands and all the things you no longer see expressed in entertainment today. For some, it is long conversations; for others, quiet time together; sometimes it's a combination of things done together, and plans to do things, or just be, together.

The notion appears to have been crushed by the entertainment industry. Hollywood seems today incapable of making a movie without sex in it somewhere. They don't know how to do it; they can't imagine "normal" life without it. Even TV Sit-Coms today express love exclusively as sexually oriented. Love scenes are not ever made today showing a kiss in which both mouths are not wide open and there are a lot of slurping, smacking, sloppy sounds made. I'm sorry, but that is just not romantic, and for me, neither is it entertaining.

There are a blue smitherillion ways to express love non-sexually; don't follow Hollywood's lead. There is a sexual myth that prevails in male quarters regarding how "the man" is supposed to be the experienced one in the wedding bedroom, and so "the man" had better get out there and get some of this sexual experience to bring to the game. Listen, you don't need this crap; you don't need to bring any disease home to your wife; you don't need to get involved with any woman you do not intend to marry, and you do not have to have sex first. You do not need experience. The fumbling around and figuring it out may turn out to be the best part, for both of you.

It only took your great - great - great - great grandparents about five minutes to learn everything they needed to know about sex, and as a result of that five minute sex education, you are here reading this. Absolutely nothing has changed since then. There is nothing new under the sun. Sex today is exactly and precisely the same as it was thousands of years ago. Anyone who tells you they know more about it today than was known previously is lying to you, and probably to themselves.

When you find the one for you, put her on a pedestal, where she belongs. Treat her like the holy daughter of God that she is. Do not disgrace her and yourself, and do not subject her to the indignities normalized on TV and in the movies. Life is real, and true love exists, and true love is not tied to sex.

How did filth ever become adult?

Check out the Democrat Party's pro masturbation industry position. President Carter, the supposed “moral” bastion of the Party, among other prominent Dems, gave interviews to Playboy Magazine, no doubt for the benefit of the more cerebrally inclined among the slobbering jerk-off Democrats who subscribe to Playboy. Larry Flynt gets a seat of honor at the Kennedy table at big Democrat Party fund raiser dinners. It's a freedom of speech thing, see? Official Democrat Party fund raising events are held at the Playboy Mansion. Why not? Again, just like abortion, it's what they stand for and what they are about. And we are intolerant if we refuse to compromise on this issue.

Ask anyone involved in the federally protected, unregulated multi-billion dollar masturbation industry if they give monetary and voting support to the Democrat Party or to anyone else, and they'll tell you who they own. I mean pay. These are the same government clowns who seek religious censorship of all topics Christian in our Marxist schools. I mean public. At the same time, they seek to indoctrinate other people’s children in the wholesomeness of and even naturalness of illicit and unnatural sex. They do it as quietly as possible, of course, keeping their true “educational” activities as far off of Christian parent’s radar screens as possible.

Here’s how I complained about Niel Cavuto’s little nod of encouragement to the mission of Hugh Hefner and the Playmate Of The Year on the Fox News channel, in the Link Between Fox News and Playboy Empire article:

The Received Sexual Wisdom From On-High

Almost all of the TV channels you can click through at any time of day will be subtly or overtly promoting some sort of sensuality or sexually provocative theme or image. We had our first pro-sodomy President, Billary "I loath the military" Clinton, who ran a pro-sodomy first campaign, who tried to homosexualize the military, and partially succeeded when he settled for “don’t ask, don’t tell,” whose personal extra-marital sexual escapades are legendary, and who in all likelihood, statistically speaking, is incubating and/or treating multiple strains social consequences.

What “don’t ask don’t tell” involves is the official condoning, which means promoting, of active sodomites, which means active sodomy, in the military, so long as it’s all kept quiet. We have a pro-active education system, controlled and driven from above, by the state, not by the parents, that insists upon twelve solid years of sex education, distributes copies of Heather Has Two Mommies and Daddy’s New Roommate in order to teach the normalcy and acceptability of active homosexuality, teaches children the mechanics of safe fornication, responsible promiscuity, and protected sodomy, gives condoms to other people’s children, and even goes so far as to smuggle other people’s children into and out of abortion mills. Perhaps across state lines. At our expense.

If you know a professional public school teacher, ask him what need a school child has of such words as cunnilingus, analingus and felatio in his vocabulary. Will they help him to get ahead in the world? Might they come up in a job interview? Isn’t it fairly obvious that modern sex education involves the teaching and promotion of various sexual techniques?

And then there are the real experts on the subject. The Freudian sexologists. One such expert gained fame some years back when she began speaking openly and frankly about sexual topics live, on the air, with call-in questions. Dr. Ruth became an overnight star, among the young, the old, and the middle aged. Everyone delighted in the sight of this matronly, dignified-looking little woman who spoke so openly, unhesitatingly and frankly on sexual matters, and who gave such advice!

In response to one question regarding anal sex, she was quick to firmly point out that the man should “never go directly from the anus to the vagina! You can give her a very bad infection that way.” No kidding. The mind boggles as we wonder how long it took her to figure that one out. In Dr. Ruth we see, classically illustrated, the dignity of the pig, bound in unholy matrimony to the wisdom of the jackass, in that grand cathedral of secularism, television. People are not born into this level of stupidity, they have to be educated into it. (How do modern scientists “know” the evolutionary theory is true? They learned it as dogma in school. So did their teachers. So did I, and so did you.)

But, whether high-placed fools can see it or not, it always comes back to simple right and wrong. There is such a thing, and it is always discernable. While critical thinking may have fallen into disuse lately, it still exists, and all thinking Catholics, and indeed all Homo Sapiens are called to use it. Here is the main truth that secularism cannot stand.

There exists such a thing as objective truth that is independent of the human mind. It doesn't matter what we think about it, how we think about it or even if we think about it. It always remains objective truth.

This means that there is such a thing as absolute right, and that there is such a thing as absolute wrong. I don’t care if the person at the podium is a teacher, professor, scientist, rock-star, statesman, gangsta rappa, talk-show host, anchor-man, editor, judge, doctor, lawyer, personality, sit-com star, or President.

Anyone who says that there is any such thing as safe illicit sex is a damnable liar. Period. Anyone who says that there is any such thing as responsible adultery, is a damnable liar. Anyone who says that we should work to eliminate all of our sexual inhibitions, and that this is a wholesome, healthy, good thing to do, is a damnable liar. Anyone who says that practicing chastity in accordance with our state of life, whether married, single or celibate, is wrong, is a damnable liar. Anyone who says that self control and self discipline, in all areas of life, is somehow disordered or not good or not recommended is a damnable liar. Anyone who says that homosexuality is normal and acceptable and good is a damnable liar. Anyone who says that using your mouth and your lower bowel interchangeably and alternatively as sex organs is a good, wholesome, healthy, proper thing to do, and that you ought to consider it yourself, is a damnable liar. Anyone who denies the existence of and the differences between virtue and vice is a damnable liar.

There is such a thing as right and wrong, and the world is not going to get better, and our nation is not going to get better, until you and I not only learn it or re-learn it, but, press the issue. Masturbation is wrong, and the very existence of an American masturbation industry is an absolute national disgrace.

The purveyors of this "adult" filth will complain that they are only satisfying a market need, an existing demand for their product. They lie. They make demand. They create it, generate it and feed it. They even indoctrinate "demand" into young impressionable minds.

Let us pray.

Lord, we repent of every shameful deed and thought; Lord, let us turn from our shameful ways, grant that we might return to worthiness, that we might stand for ultimate judgment in worthiness rather than disgrace and self-induced damnation. We turn from it, Lord, we repent of it and we beg You for mercy. Father, in Your great mercy, grant that we might bury all the filth, garbage and powerful, sensual images with which we’ve loaded our minds over the years beneath new mountains of good images, thoughts and ideas, with Holy Scripture, with Holy images, with Holy music, with decent literature and higher ideals, with prayer, with praise and glory to You, Lord, that we might never again return to even any hint of loss of self control.

Lord, that we might become true men. Grant us the grace to take charge of ourselves, to rise to the higher dignity to which we are called, to be excellent examples of decency for all younger men and boys. Let us burn all the sexually explicit material in our possession, let us block out the less than perfect TV channels, let us begin to use our eyes and our ears and our senses for good things only. Lord forgive us for ever reducing any woman or any image of any woman, in our estimation, to the level of mere material, or to any level beneath the high level of honor automatically deserved of all women.

Lord forgive us for the sin of comparing any woman to any other woman or image of any other woman in a strictly sexual way. Lord forgive us our sexually explicit language, our dirty jokes, our innuendos, and our preoccupation and participation and personal bad examples in that area. Lord, that we might gain full control of our eyes, of our dirty mouths, and control all lustful thoughts, through an increase in our prayer life.

We repent of every sexual sin, we repent of every act of actual or mental infidelity, we repent of every indecency, and we turn from it, Lord, with determination, resolve and manly commitment, and we beg forgiveness for it.

In Jesus’ name we pray.

Amen.

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SLIMC¹ Secularist Liberal Intellectual Media Complex
GESGOEAEOT² Gradually, Ever So Gradually, Over Eons And Eons Of Time
PEWAG³ Punctuated Equilibrium's Wild-Assed Guess
TTRSTF⁴ Them There Real Scientifical-Type Fellers
TTRSPTF⁵ Them There Real Smart Perfesser-Type Fellers
TTRSJTF⁶ Them There Real Smart Journalistical-Type Fellers
SNRTACBT⁷ Surely No Right Thinking Adult Could Believe Today
STNSEACPB⁸ Surely Today No Serious Educated Adult Could Possibly Believe
WDN⁹ We Don't Know
BMDFP¹⁰ Baboons, Mongrel Dogs, Filthy Pigs and ...
HBAACOTE¹¹ Human Beings Are A Cancer On The Earth
ACLU¹² Anti-Christian Litigation Union
FLORMPORIF¹³ Flagrant Liar, Or, Mindless Parrot, Or, Innocent Fool
MEJTML¹⁴ Marxist Ends-Justify-The-Means Liar
IEJTML¹⁵ Islamic Ends-Ends-Justify-The-Means Liar
MPAV¹⁶ Marxist Principles And Values
WBESSWG¹⁷ Wise, Benign, Elite, Super-Scientific World Governance
TRMITM¹⁸ The Reason Man's In This Mess
IYI¹⁹ Intellectual Yet Idiotic
TTRSCBTF²⁰ Them There Real Smart Catholic Bishop Type Fellers
IACMPVND²¹ Illegal-Alien-Criminal Marxocrat-Party-Voting Nation-Destroyers
PEJTML²² Palestinian Ends-Justify-The-Means Liar
PSYOP²³ "Psychological Operation" Mind Trick
CDC²⁴ Covid Developmentally Challenged
LGBTQ+ Every Letter Represents A Serious Psychotic sexual Identity Disorder
HEJTML²⁶ Hedonist Ends-Justify-The-Means Liar
SEJTML²⁷ Scientistic Ends-Justify-The-Means Liar

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Date: Day Thu Mar 12 12:08:52 2009
From: Charles O. Agyeman
Email: ze2@hotmail.com
Location: Woodbridge, VA
Comment:

I'm a 27 year-old Catholic and your website and articles are a great source of education and encouragement in life for me. The world has been blinded by the wiles of Satan. The youth especially appear destined for self-destruction, but perhaps with prayer and fasting our generation also might be saved much as God did the ancients.

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Date: Thu Mar 12 16:37:09 2009
From: Vic Biorseth
Comment:

Charles:

Never forget Nineveh.

I too sometimes feel that my own generation is lost. But today my hope is in the youngest ones in sight; the teens who seem to be bucking the trend and recognizing the beauty, value and vital importance of chastity, in spite of all that’s going on around them.

Let’s keep praying and fasting, and praying in atonement for others.

Regards,

Vic

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Date: Mon May 25 07:17:20 2009
From: Jayadeva Dasa
Email: love.gaura.nitai@gmail.com
Location: Brisbane Australia
Comment:

I have been trying to practice celibacy for more than a decade and praying to the kind and patient Lord of all. Articles like these make me feel many many steps closer to making a permanent end to useless wastage of energy and essential bodily fluids. I have to rest my nerves at the age of 36 simply due to years of wasting all inspired by the so called sex education I received at the tender age of 11. At least they could have waited for my body and mind to have matured (it would only have taken another 14 years) before they indoctrinated me into self hatred. I hope that I never waste my semen again.....

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Date: Mon May 25 10:02:22 2009
From: Vic Biorseth
Comment:

Jayadeva:

Prayer is your strongest weapon. Prayer is good for your spiritual, mental and physical well being and health. Prayer is the answer.

For the single person, the best use of time not needed for work, rest and family-social activity would be spent before the Blessed Sacrament, or before sacred images, or with the Holy Rosary in your hands, or in repeated novenas. For the couple in love, the best use of time together is in praying the Rosary together, or in going to sacred places on religious retreats.

Prayer presents a sure path to self control; when you seek and find His will and submit to it, self control goes on auto-pilot. Let the Lord be your pilot, not just your co-pilot. Put Him in charge of your whole life, and your whole life will improve. Never give up on the Lord; He will never give up on you.

Regards,

Vic

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Date: Wed Sep 2 05:31:34 2009
From: Vic Biorseth
Comment:

Just a word of warning about the link in the following comment:

When I ran the video, it started fine, slowed down, and eventually hung. Canceling it proved problematic. It slowed my entire system and eventually caused me to reboot the whole system. Just be forewarned, and run it at your own risk.

Regards,

Vic

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Date: Tue Sep 01 20:00:57 2009
From: muzurimule
Email: muzurimule@yahoo.com
Location: USA
Comment:

http://lenonhonorfilms.com/WhatLiesInPlainSight.html Pertinent to the subject is the foregoing link which is a documentary on Michael Jackson's "Just Beat It" music video. A real shocker related to your subject and yet the youth are exposed to this distortion/lie all the time. Prayer is sorely needed. This is an insightful documentary and it should be spread far and wide. God bless you!

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Date: Tue Sep 01 22:41:03 2009
From: Ben
Email:
Location: USA
Comment:

This is a very good site; agree with all I’ve read so far, with one exception. While this article is right on the mark, I must disagree with your stand on contraception. There are many and varied legitimate reasons for a couple to use contraception. Thank you for a great site.

Ben

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Date: Wed Sep 2 06:47:51 2009
From: Vic Biorseth
Comment:

Ben:

Your position is untenable and based on an argument that is not sustainable. If you agree that masturbation is bad, then you cannot move on to say that contraception is good. Use of Artificial Contraception is masturbation, pure and simple. It reduces your spouse (or illegitimate sex partner) to a thing; an object; a sexual playground; a tool of masturbation, to be used solely and exclusively to achieve sexual gratification and nothing more. It thereby eliminates the holy humanity of the spouse or illicit participator in the eyes of the masturbating user/abuser.

I submit that social acceptance of Contraception may be Satan’s greatest victory in England, America and the rest of Western Culture. It is sustained and encouraged by faith-based belief in the clear falsehood of the so-called human population problem, yet another evil hoax, as is the rhetorical trick that tells you that you “cannot afford” another child.

Sometimes I wonder at the numbers of people who accept what ought to be obvious evil because it is popular, and who so rarely apply the principles of critical thinking to such clearly critical issues.

Regards,

Vic

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Date: Wed Jul 21 18:33:22 2010
From: Freedom
Email: rycrowell@aol.com
Location:
Comment:

This website advocates theocracy. Producing or watching porn, as well as masturbating or using contraception, or having sex before marriage with many partners, is a personal choice. A lot of people out there don’t believe in your fairy tales and your magical invisible imaginary "God" in the sky. We do what we want. Don't like it? Too bad. You're too busy concerned about how others live their lives. Just focus on yourself.

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Date: Thu Jul 22 05:30:49 2010
From: Vic Biorseth
Comment:

Freedom:

This Website advocates no such thing. I don’t know how much you’ve read on it, or how well you can read, or if you can read at all, but it is clear that you have not picked up that rather obvious point. You, on the other hand, seem to want those with your atheistic viewpoint to rule us rather than represent us, to allow the tiny minority atheistic tail to wag the overwhelmingly Judeo-Christian majority dog, and impose atheism upon us all from above.

You are free to be atheist; we are free to believe. You are free to masturbate, we are free to live decently. Focusing on yourself seems to be what you do best; so, take your own advice. Go masturbate somewhere and leave the adults to their more mature conversation.

Regards,

Vic

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Date: Sun May 15 22:42:30 2011
From: Derrick Meadows
Email: DerrickMeadows.NY@hotmail.com
Location:
Comment:

Hi Vic,

I'm one of those who believe that masturbation is harmful. I am particularly troubled by an apparent Google-wide-agreement that pornography and masturbation are generally healthy. I don't know if you agree with me, but I find it very difficult to find web-based materials discussing evils of Onanism. It's like all the wisdom of sages vanished.

Can you please direct to some online sources which describe really evil consequences of self-abuse? Preferably without overly zealous rhetoric.

Thanks,

Derrick

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Date: Mon May 16 06:17:19 2011
From: Vic Biorseth
Comment:

Derrick:

Perhaps web-based Google-wide research is the wrong place to go to find broad support for decency. I am more inclined to the more literate approach; if you haven’t found enough evidences and external references in this article, try my Reference-Material link. Your reference to Onanism indicates you’ve already read Scripture. Probably the best resource is the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Look to the Anti-Nicene and Post-Nicene Church fathers. There is a lot of external reference used in the Artificial Contraception page, and it is heavily related to what we are talking about here. Artificial contraception is, in point of fact, masturbation, in which people use each other as mere masturbatory objects and sexual playgrounds. That article is heavily documented, and it shows that there is no real difference between masturbation and condom usage, in the eyes of the Church. (I do, however, use what you probably consider to be overly zealous rhetoric.)

Regards,

Vic

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Date: Fri Jun 17 17:37:45 2011
From: GADEL
Email: delali_11@yahoo.com
Location: Tema, Ghana
Comment:

You've said it all brother. This reminds me of an article I wrote about Call Girls whom I've encountered on the Internet and somehow "disrespected" and then repented and saw them as fellow human beings deserving of agape love and our prayers. You can check this article on my blog over here http://gadel4u.blogspot.com/2011/03/call-girls-are-humans-too.html

Thanks again Vic.

Pax in Christo

Godwin Delali Adadzie

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Date: Sat Jun 18 13:38:51 2011
From: Vic Biorseth
Comment:

GADEL:

You are most welcome sir.

Always stand fiercely in the Truth. As a young man, this will be a very, very difficult thing to do. As you get older, the longer you stand firmly in the Truth, the easier it will get; but it will never, never be easy. Truth makes enemies, and Truth makes many people uneasy.

Nevertheless, always stand fiercely in the Truth. Let us pray for each other in this great endeavor.

Regards,

Vic

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Sunday, February 24, 2013
Converted Page to SBI! Release 3.0 BB 2.0. 

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Date:  Fri Mar 07 15:38:49 2014
From:  Michael
Email:   
Location:  United States
Comment:

"I'm one of those who believe that masturbation is harmful. I am particularly troubled by an apparent Google-wide-agreement that pornography and masturbation are generally healthy. I don't know if you agree with me, but I find it very difficult to find web-based materials discussing evils of Onanism. It's like all the wisdom of sages vanished."

I could not agree more with this(and your article in general Vic). As someone who grew up during a time period where masturbation and pornography were not vilified, but actually encouraged, I have learned the evils of masturbation and porn firsthand.

I was taught that masturbation and porn were no big deal, by seemingly the entire media, and every major "scholar". So, naturally, I bought it. Yet, both always left me feeling tired, sluggish and stupid. Perhaps, most importantly they left me feeling completely unmotivated.

I had no idea the lack of motivation was related to porn/masturbation until I read about how porn causes the dopamine levels in your brain to rise to unnatural levels making every other pleasurable sensation pale in comparison.

Naturally, I was horrified and quit porn/masturbation cold turkey. Shortly thereafter, I realized why seemingly all the ancient cultures all held the same ideas about the dangers of excessive ejaculation(Tao, Hindus, Christians, etc). Once I stopped, my entire life changed. To my surprise my memory improved dramatically. My skin was no longer blemished by acne(the ancients believed acne was in part caused by sexual exhaustion) it became impossibly easy to put muscle on, when it used to be so difficult. Women also seemed to be naturally drawn to me. After I quit, I read many accounts of people who quit masturbation noticing the exact same benefits.

All of this has led me to believe that ancients were not, "prudish" or "dumb". They knew what they were talking about, and clearly possessed knowledge which has been lost in the present day. I can vouch for what they say.

I'm left wondering how much the dumbing down of America has to do with the promotion of masturbation. I'm starting to think it's played a large part.

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Date:   Fri Sep 26 2014
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment:  

Changes pursuant to changing the website URL and name from 
Thinking Catholic Strategic Center to
Catholic American Thinker.

Pulled the trigger on the 301 MOVE IT option June 1, 2014. Working my way through all the webpages.  . 

Regards,

Vic

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Date:  Thu Nov 23 08:55:15 2017
From:  Willie Shaker
Email:   Unruh@obsidian.net
Location:  Legion
Comment: 

Your post lost all credibility once you aligned it as with or against political,parties. Belief is belief irrespective of politics. When you politicize your religion, you become a prostitue of a false god. If only the Second coming of Christ will save you, then living by the way of TheCross and not the ancient scrolls must lead you.  The current "leaders" of this GOP falsely claim to represent the values of Xtians, but they are the whorish money changers Jesus drove from the temple. Their greed and lust for power should be plainly evident to you by now. Keep your belief pure and free from the lies of any politician.

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Date:  Thu Nov 23 2017
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment:  

Willie:

I don't align onanism or any other unnatural form of sexual gratification to a Political Party; the Democrat (Marxocrat) Party itself did that. I oppose all Political Parties, as you can see in the Breaking The Parties page. (Also, see Cultural Marxism, for how evil is taking over.) They made the issue political, and that calls for political opposition. When politics attacks my religion, I return will fire and advance. You can just pretend evil is not being legally imposed on you from above and just sit back and let it happen, but I'm not going to do that. You cannot name the sexual sin that the Marxocrat Party does not promote, champion and defend, in legislation, execution and adjudication of law. 

They are destroying our once Christian nation. 

If you don't want to resist that, you don't have to. You just go sit in a corner somewhere and suck your thumb, and I'll do your fighting for you. 

Regards,

Vic

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Date:  Fri Nov 29 05:43:03 20
From:  Pidlubniak
Email:   slavapidlubniak@yahoo.com.ua
Location:  Ukraine
Comment: 

I can't understand those who utter Freud's name in defense of perversion... For all of his immorality and scientific misconduct, Freud himself acknowledged the simple truth - sex the purpose of which is gratification rather then reproduction is perversion. But then again... Our beloved, glorious elites always like the "bread and circuses" strategy - so much that one can always see it if one squints a little... One does not even need to waste the money of the state on such... "Entertainment". Far better will it be if you make the uneducated masses "entertain" one another in this way. Besides, being a pragmatic man, I've never understood the pursuit of gratification - it's always self-destructive and inevitably distracts from any higher goals and aspirations.

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Date:  Fri Nov 29 2019
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment:  

Pidlubniak:

And that is precisely Satan's goal. 

Regards,

Vic

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Date:  Wed Dec 04 12:06:37 2019
From:  Pidlubniak
Email:   slavapidlubniak@yahoo.com.ua
Location:  Ukraine
Comment: 

Vic,

Not only Satan's. While I am an atheist, this only makes evil more terrifying, in retrospect - as some people choose evil willingly. Through, our glorious elite doesn't even seem to bother with the effort of hiding it, anymore. This is Nazi Germany all over again - Hitlerites distributed pornography in Poland and Ukraine to try and break native Christian morality (it didn't take off then - but Hitler was no Gramsci). After the Soviet rampage for more then three decades, the Christian morality in both Ukraine and Poland was eroded enough then when Kinsey's little project boomed, it affected people in our territory too. Soviet propaganda held it back - but then the Soviet Union fell and people finally got exposed to the full range of this crap. Of course, from our perspective, this is fairly recent - BDSM and other sorts of disgusting things didn't take off that much yet, but with our stalwart "allies" in European Union (which, predictably, are far more interested in puffing up homosexuality then in helping us with our Russian mess in Donbass and Crimea) and our "glorious" globalization, the people are catching up on every disgusting trend in the world right now.

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Date:  Thu Dec 05 2019
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment:  

Pidlubniak:

If you are an atheist, then, how do you know any of this is wrong, and how do you even know whether anything at all is right or wrong? 

Regards,

Vic

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Date:  Thu Dec 05 09:17:12
From:  Cathdeac
Email:   Channingfell@gmail.com
Location:  Hillsboro Texas USA
Comment: 

It has been a while since I read this piece... the prophecy is right on. When we say good/evil we are by observation and intent recognizing there is “something” afoot as neither can exist without the other.. there is a “beginning “ of good and another of evil. By these beginnings it defines and establishes purpose. So, saying “I am religious” doesn’t say which side you are striving to support. It is a namby-pamby fence sitting post turtle hopelessness of soul, of conviction and of accountability. You must judge (oops, yes, JUDGE) based upon some static “normal”... Christianity which which helps define GOOD, seeks good, and everything else seeks evil. We the “backwaters, gun toting Bible believers” need to unify or  to infer another writer’s words, go quietly into the DARK night of oblivion and pain. Let’s choose good... don’t walk away from the Church, stand and turn over the money tables!

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Date:  Fri Dec 06 10:58:01 2019
From:  Pidlubniak
Email:   slavapidlubniak@yahoo.com.ua
Location:  Ukraine
Comment: 

Vic,

I have seen enough evil in my life to understand that I don't want anything to do with it. The Golden Rule helps, as does the study of history and science. While I am too scatterbrained for my own good at times, I am no fool. Just because evil of all kinds disgusts me does not mean that I do not understand it's nature, influence and temptation.

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Date:  Fri Dec 06 2019
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment:  

Pidlubniak:

Good. Note well that the Golden Rule is Christian (Matt 7:12), and that the Church invented material science (and the university, and the hospital) during the supposed "dark" ages. Keep seeking.

Regards,

Vic

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Date:  Sat Dec 07 09:50:26 2019
From:  Pidlubniak
Email:   slavapidlubniak@yahoo.com.ua
Location:  Ukraine
Comment: 

 Vic,

Can't say that the Christians were the very first to express the Golden Rule - if I remember correctly, it was first said word for word in the "Eloquent Peasant" - an ancient Egyptian tale. As for the "dark ages"... They were only "dark" because of feudalism, not Christianity or papacy as a political institution. And they were directly caused by the Mohammedan hordes - Barbary pirates blocked Mediterranean commerce, destroying papyrus trade from Egypt. It's not a coincidence that the very first castle-like fortifications are found in Southern Italy - the primary stomping grounds for Mohammedan  pirates back then... Even the Inquisition, as I recall, was actually an effort to root out subversives - hidden Mohammedanist pockets in Spain and Portugal that pretended to be Christian constituted a significant danger to both the Church and the local government (and the death toll is, while exaggerated, is still utterly minuscule compared to atrocities of Mohammedanists). Even the Renassaince happened because of massive escape of Byzantine clergy and merchants from the Ottomans - with them, they took Greek culture and art. Mohammedanism is too closely intertwined with the history of the West - this widespread ignorance among the West of it's true nature... Socialist subversion of education is the reason for that. Attributes of Mohammedanism are very useful to Socialists - it's ability to cause fear in public (visible terrorism allowed for Patriot act to pass), long-term Cloward-Piven strategy benefits (through the polygamy in Mohammedanism, Mohammedans can, in time, outbreed the native communities - through their subsistence on welfare, they would overload welfare programs in the process) as well as the most important thing. Mohammedans make for the BEST revolutionaries. Not only their very cause is protected by "freedom of religion" - they also lack what Hitler termed "petit bourgeois Social-Democrat" (qualities of lukewarm, semi-moral, normal people - which won't fight for principles, but won't do atrocities either) - but a committed Mohammedanist can always make a committed Socialist. Both creeds offer a distant utopia/salvation - which is achieved by world subjugation. Both creeds appeal to the love of plunder and barbarity so commonly found in marginalized elements of society while providing an excuse for such behaviour. Both emphasize the animalistic part of man - and both hate the very concept of any and all other creeds, for they hate free will itself. It's little wonder that both of them are allied so closely - for now, that is, for these creeds are quite efficient at both breeding betrayers and eating their own. Mohammedans, of course, benefit from Socialist-defined, tried-and-true methods of subversion, as well as Socialist cover-ups of Mohammedanism's true nature in Western education and mass media. It's like the mythological Hydra... Cut off one head - two more shall take it's place! Unless the West stops with the idiotic half-measures and awakens to the ideological warfare, there will be no Iolaus to burn the Hydra's neck and prevent the regrowth of the heads...

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Date:  Sat Dec 07 2019
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment:  

Pidlubniak:

Very good scholarship, but it's a bit of a stretch to horse-shoe the wording of the Eloquent Peasant exactly into the Golden Rule; "Do to the doer to cause that he do" is close enough that it may be the earliest written usage. The Jews did come out of Egypt, and Leviticus 19:18 (538-332 B.C.) expresses it precisely. Leviticus is included in the Christian canon of Scripture. 

Thank you for pointing out the similarities and shared tactics and strategies of Marxism and Islam; few people see that evil relationship so clearly. They are at times antagonistic, and at others, synergistic; to me, evil Marxism and evil Islam are in a love-hate relationship with each other. 

Regards,

Vic

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Date:  Sun Dec 08 10:49:58 2019
From:  Pidlubniak
Email:   slavapidlubniak@yahoo.com.ua
Location:  Ukraine
Comment: 

Vic,

Well, not only that particular translation is a bit old, the very fact that it is a translation (as I do not have any access to the original tale, nor can I understand the primary language in which it is preserved) renders the wording a bit loose and open to interpretation nearly by definition. Broadly, it is the Golden Rule. Thankfully, Levicitus is unambiguous on the ethic of reciprocity. It's also originates just before the Pahlavi texts of Mazdayasna, which are also a confirmed unambiguous expression of this rule (through, the earliest possible dating on those is just 300 BC).

As for Marxism and Mohammedanism... Hm. I was always suspicious of Mohammedanism - my people were beset by Tatar/Ottoman slavers for a very long time, with the Cossacks forming primarily to fend them off. I thought that the reason for slavery was economical/feudal - but then, every nation under Islam was somehow involved with slavery, even in times when feudalism was no longer an option. So I've turned to the religion itself. And what I found was not good. Almost every pan-Mohammedanist "saint" is a conqueror or a wordly ruler of some sort - even the so-called "prophet" is a cowardly caravan-robber. Compare that with Jesus - a pacifistic philosopher (in the least). Buddha - also a philosopher and a pacifist. Zarathustra - also a highly moral man by all accounts as well as a philosopher. So... Why Mohammad doesn't fit the profile? Because he was not a prophet of anything - nor was he a particularly moral man, nor was he a philosopher. He was a manipulator, in the Machiavellian sense - his particular Christian heresy is unique because he mixed it with the tribalism of Arabs. This is why it's considered an another religion. That's why the Sharia is so brutal - it is rooted in ethics of people that were not known for their philosophy or morality. He set himself up as "the last prophet" solely so that no other manipulator would be able to ever hijack his own pet project of a religion. His very doctrine smells of the fact that he only heard about Christianity on hearsay - almost like the "anime Catholicism" of the Japanese... Mohammedan creed hates the Jews because they are the originators of the theology that Mohammad appropriated - and it hates all other religions because Mohammad knew, deep down, that his doctrine could not withstand scrutiny of others and was fearful of other religions as a result. Then, there are the inconsistencies in doctrine (for a divine revelation, anyway - Christianity and Judaism are consistent, as the timeline of events can be traced with no discrepancies). But Mohammedanism is different. Quran mentions (I've forgot the precise number of that verse) that Mohammad was "carried by night from the Sacred Mosque to the Distant Mosque". Which is the Jerusalem Second Temple - the same that was destroyed by Romans in 70 AD. And since Mohammad's heresy originates centuries later... Oops. Someone either time-traveled or, far more likely, tried pulling a con. Mohammad didn't know jack about the real backbone of Jewish and Christian theology - he copy-pasted portions of it and inserted his own things at a whim. There is no higher end in Mohammedanism - no real calling for any moral restraint or commandments... Huh. This is like the few strains of radical Anabaptism in the Middle Ages - "faith alone". So long as you are working for Allah, the ends justify the means and no deed is too foul. This is nothing but an utter perversion of Christianity's entire message - the only other heresy strains that perverted Christianity so much were the anti-authority Anabaptists and Gnosticism. And I am not even getting into the whole concept of abrogation, which, in it's radical change from Mecca (peaceful, earlier period of Mohammad's life and religion - too many Jews to crush and declare war against) to Medina (there is enough followers - let's go kill the Jews!) verses is nowhere near anything from both Judaism and Christianity. And there you have it... 1.6 billion people are adherents of Mohammedanism. 1.6 of either violent barbarians or useful idiots (and the switch from the last to the first happens pretty damn fast). As for Marxism... Mohammad may have invented ideological warfare... But he was no intellectual. Marxism has refined both it's subversive, seductive promises of utopia as well as it's myriad of approaches - for it was not wanting when it came to thinkers (which came from a culture far more advanced then Arabia). Therefore, the one who truly understands Marxism will have no trouble with understanding the true nature of Mohammedanism. And vice versa. Thankfully for us, we have not even begun to fight. But unless the current Pope (the seeming, regrettable product of Liberation Theology at best - and a heretic at worst (I still can't believe that a sitting Pope even flirted with Arianism). I guess, on the upside, Vatican can now be powered by the rotary energy of all the previous Popes spinning in their graves. Dammit... I still can't believe that Socialist influence reached that far. McCarthyism, some will say. Yeah, right. In truth, Senator McCarthy was probably underselling it.

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Date:  Thu Feb 11 04:37:04 2021
From:  Justarandomguy
Email:   
Location:  
Comment: 

I'd agree with everything you have said, except for Christianity. Many times the "Judeo Christian" views are being taken as universal and I can't tolerate it anymore. I will not tolerate it anyway. Christianity has caused a lot of evil around the world. The Christian nation you spoke about in one comment was created by evil methods. Spread of diseases, genocide and what not. Destruction of indigenous cultures has been a norm. Infact they are trying to do the same thing where I come from. The whole western civilization is built like this. I'm mentioning all this because your comments have spoken about this (you've said all about anti West and stuff) And I'm sorry to say, from my observations that Christianity (and subsequently the whole western world) doesn't really seem to respect other teachings and religions(which would include teachings from ancient civilizations other than Greeks, Romans, Babylonians and Egyptians) and they're either absorbed without due credit or made fun by being called as "Satanic"

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Date:  Thu Feb 11 2021
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment:  

Justarandomguy:

Your Islamo-Commie-Homo education (indoctrination) is showing. 

Your sense of history is exactly backwards. It was and is Judaeo-Christian morality that "legalized" the natural law in Western and Westernized cultures. If you prefer cultures in which murder, robbery, rape, sodomy, slavery, etc., are "moral", then find one, and enter it. Like it or not, America is Christian. I know how deeply your Unicratic Party despises both Christianity and America, but that's too bad; we are what we are. 

And if you (and they) do not despise Christianity, Christians and America, then you (and they) have a very funny way of showing it. 

Regards,

Vic

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Date:  Fri Feb 12 04:35:21 2021
From:  Justarandomguy
Email:   
Location:  
Comment: 

Let's get this straight. First thing first. I'm neither an Islamic, or commie or Homo supporter. (Islam and homosexuality don't go hand in hand anyway, duh) But yes, I'm against the western world and the values it puts. 

Islam is definitely violent and stupid and I don't question it at all. But are you even aware of what your own religion has done? (PS - I'm not an atheist either) Speaking of robbery, rape, murder, slavery I'll ask you questions. Which religion murdered millions of natives? Raped and destroyed their culture? Robbed their lands and natural resources? And institutionalized slavery for quite a long time?? Islam and Christianity both come into that category.

Islam destroyed the Persian civilization, Christianity destroyed many others.

Hitler himself killed 6 million Jews. (And yes Hitler was a hardcore Christian). Winston Churchill wasn't too different either. There are many such examples. Christianity promoted slavery for a long time. Christianity colonized many lands, looted wealth. Christianity is the root from where racism and white supremacy came into existence. Judeo Christian views aren't the only ones for the world and certainly aren't the best in the world. 

Colonization has a gruesome history. Even after slavery was finished colonized minds were nothing different. And the root of all this is Christianity. 

My sense of history might be backwards but you seem like just unaware of the history.

I certainly don't like Christian missionaries coming into my place and luring my people to convert them. We are not savages. We have a culture of our own. Fornication, sexual immorality and other things aren't in my culture anyway. These come from modern western culture. That modern western culture which promotes pubs and late night parties. Developing countries still have that family culture. It's the western developed world (America included) where people are just too spoilt because they don't have to struggle for basic necessities like food and water so they make other issues.

Even in tribal areas people go by strict rules and regulations. 

I'm a sworn enemy of Christianity. And I will never tolerate the Christian missionaries downgrading my culture, the teachings, my language and many more things. 

Christianity aims to take over the world, I will never let that happen Let America be Christian, which actually doesn't seem the case. For people coming from different cultures and different religions and taking that culture from their own native place, America hardly looks like a Christian state to me. The balance of power is shifting, and the western world is collapsing. It already has proved that it is quite inefficient in handling this covid pandemic anyway. 

I came to this site because I was searching stuff against masturbation and porn. But Judeo Christian morality? What a damn joke.

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Date:  Fri Feb 12 2021
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment:  

Justarandomguy:

Again, your maleducation is showing; thank you for proving my point. 

And I don't blame you at all for not identifying your religion; most people would probably be ashamed of it too. But the statement that Christianity instituted rape, robery, slavery, etc., is just a flat out lie. 

The Cultural Marxism that dominates academe may have fatally infected your formal education, but even that does not totally exonerate you from your own guilt in holding fast to falsehoods. As a responsible adult, it is your human duty to seek, find, know and profess truth in important matters. 

The verity of history depends upon who wrote it and why. 

Your "history" was written by politicians, not real historians. 

I hate to pop your hate-filled little bubble, but there really ain't no such thing as white supremacy, and critical race theory is bogus. 

And, Hitler was a Pagan. He made references to Christianity in political speeches, but he hated Christianity. Look up the Table Talk essays by the Nazis Bormann, Heim, Picker, et al, who recorded his "off the record" self-refutations of his popular public persona.  

Finally, I know how deeply you despise Christianity, but you will never succeed in destroying it. It has survived oppressive governments since the year of our Lord 33, and it will most certainly survive you. 

Regards,

Vic

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Date:  Fri Feb 12 08:10:20 2021
From:  
Email:   
Location:  
Comment: 

Lol

You assume way too much. I thought I'd be done and move on. 

Fine, I'll tell you what I am. I'm born to a Zoroastrian father and a Hindu mother. And nope, I'm definitely not ashamed of it. 

And why do you twist my points? Where did I say that I want to destroy Christianity like those governments? Yes I look at Christianity with disdain, because it intends to destroy my culture. And I simply want to save it, not destroy others. Just like Islam destroyed Zoroastrianism. There are hardly any Zoroastrian people left in the middle east. Christianity hates others who are not Christians, and curses them to so called "eternal hellfire". Christianity hates me as much as I hate Christianity. 

I've seen it all, how Christian missionaries downgrade everything I stand for, because I'm not a Christian and I never will be. I'm better off without an ideology that is based on conquering the world. Just like you pretty much hate the "pagans". Hence portraying Hitler into one. Yes I do agree with the view that Hitler wasn't a fan of some aspects of Christianity(which are apparent in those "Table Talks" you mention), but at the end of his life he was a hardcore Christian. And he didn't kill Jews out of nothing. He hated Jews because Christianity taught him to. In the end Nazism was nothing but Christian Socialism. 

That's precisely why I will never stand up to Christianity. And I will not let the missionaries downgrade my culture. Apparently just like them you too believe the same thing, that non Christians are doomed. Non Christians including Jews, and others. Just like Hitler you hate them too. You hate me because I'm a non Christian. And you believe in the stupidity of eternal hellfire. 

About White Supremacy, I have literally met people (both on the internet and in real life) that believe in this. All they know is the glories of Greek civilization, and then Romans and then the Modern world. 2 years back I had a professor under whom I was taking a course and he showed his true colors. And that wasn't even the point I was putting. I was putting the point that Christianity is where this originated. Because Christianity teaches to hate (the ironic talks about love are just stupidity). Because Hitler hated others. 

The medieval mechanical torturing devices are a testimony. Christianity is not much different from Islam in this regard. The only difference being Christianity succeded in conquests eventually and Islam failed and lost its things. 

And don't even get me started with institutionalized slavery. Christianity benefitted tremendously from it. And colonization? Killing of the natives? America is literally built on the blood of the natives. The greed of Christian priests knew no bounds at all. Not just killing other cultures, but digesting the cultures as well. Easter was a pagan festival. There's so much to say. So much more. But I'm done here. Last thing I got to say. For you I must be a "pagan" and I don't care. You want to destroy my culture and my language? Bring it on mister. I'm sure about the fact that in my lifetime western world is surely going to collapse. That includes America too. I don't hate American people as such as it is a melting pot of variety of people. Neither do I hate whites again. Ironically I also have Christian friends but I don't wish ill over them. But I sure as hell hate this ideology which is not much different from Islam and wants to conquer the world. 

And I hate Christian missionaries and those who promote what I'm gonna call as Christian supremacy.  And I will never bow down to it.

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Date:  Sat Feb 13 2021
From:  Vic Biorseth
Comment:  

Justarandomguy:

My my; we seem to have touched a nerve.

I note that you have identified the religions of your parents, but not your own. So, whether your personal religion is stupid and indefensible, or you are not well enough versed in it and not confident enough to able to debate it cannot be known. 

Declaring yourself to be the "sworn enemy of Christianity" certainly sounds like you want to destroy Christianity to me. Declaring yourself to be someones enemy automatically makes that someone your enemy. When you attack someone else's religion do not expect your own religion, or lack of one, to come out of the battle untouched. 

Christ didn't come into the world to conquer it, but to save man from it, those who would be saved, of their own free will. Christianity does not drag any man, kicking and screaming against his will, into heaven. Christianity preaches the Gospel, and if it is not accepted, Christianity shakes the dust from it's sandals and moves on. You come into Christianity of your own free will choice, or not at all. 

God damns no one. Men damn themselves. 

No religion is free of its sinners or its own heretics. No nation's history is unblemished by some evil. But sinners and heretics do not define Christianity; the preserved Depositum Fidei does that. And no evil-doers such as the Democrat Party's Confederacy, or the current Unicrat party, defines America. The Declaration and the Constitution do that. 

Hitler, like all Marxists, violated every Commandment of God and openly refuted, mocked and ridiculed Christianity. He opposed everything Christianity taught. Here are a few of his quotes, mostly taken from the Lies and Liars page:

It gets even worse when you look at the lyrics of the songs and the dogmatic, state, party and Führer worship. The "Hitler Youth" outright declared themselves to be Pagan. 

And I don't hate Pagans; I merely recognize what they are. 

Again, white supremacy, as a major political faction to contend with, is a Marxist myth. A "straw man" political target. Today it is black supremacy that is a serious political faction of contention, and not only in America. Interestingly, many black supremacists, perhaps even a majority, are white. It could hardly get any more stupid than a person who is a racist against his own race. 

It shows what Culturally Marxist "education" can do and has done. 

And again, your statement about the relationship between institutionalized slavery and the Church is just another flat out lie. We refuted it in detail in the Slavery page. The whole history of Catholicism opposed chattel slavery. 

Whether you like it or not, no religion ever inspired more people to charity, civility, hospitality, equality and the recognition and respect of the other than Christianity. 

And, whether you like it or not, no nation every raised more people out of poverty, freed more people and provided more opportunity for people than the USA. 

Why do you suppose everyone wanted to come here, and still want to come here?

How many all over the world are struggling to come to "your culture" of which you are so proud? 

What you are missing, Justarandomguy, is the One Most Important Principle that brings order and orderliness to the soul, and to whole cultures. The opposite of that one important thing is chaos, disorder and hate. 

America's end will be the death of the goose that laid the golden egg.

But the very gates of hell will not prevail over the Church. 

Regards,

Vic

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